[Rhodes22-list] Don's reply on Homelessness
ed kroposki
ekroposki at charter.net
Mon Nov 29 16:10:20 EST 2004
Don,
Keep the story going, you are doing great.
Ed K
Greenville, SC, USA
On Behalf Of Clarke, Donald R (Don), NEO
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 3:36 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Jesusland - Wally the Liberal
Steve,
I have a volunteer Lawyer on staff to work on making these programs work. He
gets so mad sometimes it seems like I need a drywall repair kit around at
all times. If reasonably educated people can't find their way though the
maze how do homeless do it. My informal study shows that most of my clients
are not homeless because of drugs. Mostly they are people who lived pay
check to pay check and misfortune hits and the landlord sent them on their
way. Try making a rent payment when you need two months rent in advance. The
longer you are homeless the harder it becomes.
We can argue about which "track" we are on till the cows come home. What I
want to hear is do we care about those who are not making it and are we
doing our share to help.
And are we Liberal enough to recognize that reasonable people can disagree
about the solution but we caring enough to be the differences aside and
help.
And now I need to return to earning a living, Steve at least you care about
something, I hate apathy.
On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 3:05 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Jesusland - Wally the Liberal
Don
Let look at this from a more analyical point of view.
If you fill bankrupcy; do you lose your home? No.
Therefore, the question is, what did they do to
actually become homeless. There are many HUD program
for cheap housing. Shelter Plus Care Programs.
Weatherization Programs. Emergency Food Programs.
Low Income Energy Assistance Programs. Refugee
Resettlement Programs. Homeless Assistance Grant
programs. Aid to Aged,Blind, Disabled program. TANF
programs. This is just a few more on top of the ones
I listed before.
So, why are these people homeless. And an even bigger
questions, what are they doing for themselves to get
themselves into a home.
Remember, McDonald is always hiring. And the man &
women who has children; it is thier responcisbility to
take care of thier children & provide a home. Not
Government. But as you can see from the small list I
just quoted; there is really not a reason for people
to be homeless today.
Some people are lazy and must learn it the hard way.
Also, you will fine (from all the studies I have read)
that the main cause for the homeless is drugs. Drug
addiction & alcohol abuse coupled with the notion that
Government should take care of them. PUt them on the
streets.
Govenment cannot do everything. I understand that
liberals think that govenment can but the real answer
is that it CANNOT. Morally, it should NOT either.
Steve
--- "Clarke, Donald R (Don), NEO" <drclarke at att.com
wrote:
Steve,
The Homeless shelter has been a real focus of mine
lately. There is nothing more frightening for a
family than to be with out a home. There are no TV's
or dryers or in some cases cars. I have seen the
faces of the kids who are truly scared for
themselves and their parents. They take on the guilt
of the parents and are inconsolable. I send the
slackers out the door but there are very few of
them. The need is real and the response from
government is indifference and confusion. So the
volunteers make the difference one family at a time.
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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 2:36 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Jesusland - Wally the
Liberal
Don
Your actions as noted below sound sincere. However,
lets look at one of your issue.
If the economy is so
wonderful why is our case loads growing, why is
the
traditional family our best customer. Why is
government so uncaring?
Now this is not critizing your works but lets look
at
your above statements.
We are coming out of a recession that was created by
Clinton economic policies. You must verify this on
your own. I have stated it in the past. It is
verifiable. The so called traditional family being
your best customer. Could it also be that more
poeple
who do not need welfare are simple lineing up for
freebees? I have seen several news show where there
are lines of people line up waiting on Commodities
distributions and I will say that the lines are real
long. Watching this on a liberal network; the spin
is
how poor everyone is & how they look like the middle
class. Switch it over the a more balance network
where anchor goes over and ask a few questions; here
are a few of the responces:
How many TVs in the house? average was 3
Do you have a microwave? all yes
Washer & dryer? all yes
Cable TV? all yes
How many cars? average was 2
Just so you know; I am on top of the percentages of
who is poor & who is not. The poor are being taken
care of and there are a great many programs to help
them get jobs. Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security,
all are still here and we even have a new
entitlement
under the Bush administration for Drug benefits.
The
Liberals promise it but the Republican delivered.
Now again, your good works should be applauded. I
do
my fare share but I won't go into what they are. My
points with Wally & Bob are that they are only
throwing out that liberal goom & doom and that is
just
plain nonsence. You sound like a very smart man & I
think you can see that this country is on a good
path
and it is getting better now that Bush has corrected
all the policies the Clinton had put in place.
Anyway, that liberal gloom & doom doens't cut it
with
me. People can take care of themselves and the ones
that REALLY can't; this country has program on top
of
more programs to help them out. People must learn
to
do for themselves. Government does not need to be
in
the business of wiping people asses. And my tax
dollars are NOT needed for that either.
Steve
--- "Clarke, Donald R (Don), NEO" <drclarke at att.com
wrote:
Steve,
I can remain silent no longer.
Were is your heart, your compassion?
I am a Liberal in the great American tradition,
that person you seem so to loath.
I learned to be a Liberal while serving my country
and trying to win the hearts and minds of another.
Instead of winning them over to me, they won me
over. A great man a lover of peace once told me in
the last hours of his life that as imperfect as
their life was it was theirs and America need not
worry about them as in time they would join the
community of nations as a productive partner.
This
officer of the army of the north was so right and
history has proven him true. He told me to go home
and help my countrymen. As so I did.
In my spare time I worked at the food bank, and
the
homeless shelters since only action shows the true
person. If compassion is to be real there must be
action. In the many years I have do this work
there
have been many ups and down and it sometime seen
endless. But in the last 3 years the people coming
to these services have changed. These are not the
typical down and out person but the "there for the
grace of God go I" where misfortune has turned to
despair. Formally successful people set a drift.
You would think that government should be there to
help but in my area the local Republican
administration considers those desperate people as
unimportant and are left in the hands of Liberals
of
all kinds who care and act. If the economy is so
wonderful why is our case loads growing, why is
the
traditional family our best customer. Why is
government so uncaring? More than a few great men
have said that the measure of a great nation is
how
we care for those most in need. I see a lot of
conservatism but not much compassion.
I have been lucky to have been able to do so many
wonderful things in my life including owning and
sailing the Rhodes22 but nothing makes me more
proud
than to help a family regain the dignity that
economic freedom brings.
Liberal is not a dirty word but in fact a proud
American tradition of caring and acting. Come join
us we could us your help!
Don Clarke
S/V Certainty
Liberal
a person who favors a political philosophy of
progress and reform and the protection of civil
liberties
a person who favors an economic theory of
laissez-faire and self-regulating markets
broad: showing or characterized by
broad-mindedness;
"a broad political stance"; "generous and broad
sympathies"; "a liberal newspaper"; "tolerant of
his
opponent's opinions"
having political or social views favoring reform
and
progress
tolerant of change; not bound by authoritarianism,
orthodoxy, or tradition
in political speech now in the U.S. a liberal is a
person who believes it is the duty of government
to
ameliorate social conditions and create a more
equitable society. Liberals favor generous
spending
on the welfare state; they exhibit a concern for
minorities, the poor, and the disadvantaged and
often see these conditions as a product of social
injustices rather than individual failings.
A person who believes that the government should
actively support social reform within the existing
system. Liberals stress the importance of
individual
rights and believe the government should promote
equality in affairs of private citizens and
businesses. (See CONSERVATIVE)
Just a touch of humor
A DAY IN THE LIFE OF JOE REPUBLICAN
Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with
water to prepare
his morning coffee. The water is clean and good
because some
tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum
water-quality standards.
With his first swallow of coffee, he takes his
daily
medication. His
medications are safe to take because some stupid
commie liberal
fought to insure their safety and that they work
as
advertised.
All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his
employer's medical
plan because some liberal union workers fought
their
employers for paid
medical insurance - now Joe gets it too.
He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs.
Joe's bacon is
safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought
for laws to regulate
the meat packing industry.
In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his
shampoo.
His bottle is
properly labeled with each ingredient and its
amount
in the total
conten! ts because some crybaby liberal fought for
his right to know what he was
putting on his body and how much it contained.
Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep
breath.
The air he
breathes is clean because some environmentalist
wacko liberal fought
for laws to stop industries from polluting our
air.
He walks to the subway station for his
government-subsidized ride to
work. It saves him considerable money in parking
and
transportation
fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for
affordable public
transportation, which gives everyone the
opportunity
to be a contributor.
Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with
excellent pay,
medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and
vacation because some
lazy liberal union members fought and died for
these
working standards. Joes
employer pays these standards because Joe's
employer
doesn't want his
employees to call the union.
If Joe is hurt on the job or! becomes unemployed,
he'll get a worker
compensation or unemployment check because some
stupid liberal didn't
think he should lose his home because of his
temporary misfortune.
Its noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit
so
he can pay some
bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the
FSLIC because some
godless
liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from
unscrupulous bankers who
ruined the banking system before the Great
Depression.
Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten
mortgage
and his
below-market federal student loan because some
elitist liberal decided
that Joe and the government would be better off if
he was educated and earned
more money over his lifetime.
Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his
father
this evening at
his farm home in the country. He gets in his car
for
the drive. His
car is among the safest in the world because some
America-hating liberal
fought for car safety standards.! He arrives at
his
boyhood home. His
was the third generation to live in the house
financed by Farmers' Home
Administration because bankers didn't want to make
rural loans. The
house didn't have electricity until some
big-government liberal stuck
his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural
electrification.
He is happy to see his father, who is now retired.
His father lives
on Social Security and a union pension because
some
wine-drinking,
cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care
of himself so Joe
wouldn't have to.
Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and
turns on a radio talk
show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals
are
bad and
conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that
the
beloved Republicans have fought
against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys
throughout his day.
Joe agrees: "We don't need those big-government
liberals ruining our lives!
After all, I'm a self-made man who believes
everyone
should take care
of themselves, just like I have."
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