[Rhodes22-list] Instructional Videos

Mon Oct 18 11:43:48 EDT 2004

Jeff, thanks for the reminder.  I used one of the first generation 
simulators.  It was crude and probably why I did not think of it again.  But 
todays simulators are much more advanced as far as graphics and feel.  I 
could have used that this weekend.  I had four students in a "Travellers" 
class where I condence the workload into an intense weekend of talking 
sailing and hitting the water whenever the weather allows.  The weather 
never allowed.  I had the same weather as Rummy on Saturday.  We got up 
early and took to the water to get sailing before I got too bad.  We started 
out in 15 kts and it grew quickly untill we were in 20 gust to 28.  It was 
like teaching someone to drive a car with the accelerator glued to the 
floor.  We got a small window of reasonable sailing Saturday evening.   
Sunday was the inverse, the dreaded no wind, no feel, or resopnse to inputs. 
  We got 4 hours of sailiing but spent another 4 hours drifting waiting for 
a breeze.  I might look into a simulator for just that reason.  Thanks.  Bob

>From: "Susanj, Jeffrey L" <jeffrey.l.susanj at boeing.com>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Instructional Videos
>Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:52:28 -0500
>
>An alternative to an instructional vidio is a good software simulation
>where you can crank over a tiller connected to the joystick port and the
>boat on the screen will tack.  I have a DOS simulator from somewhere in
>Europe that helped me a lot when I was just learning and the lake was
>too flooded to actually sail.
>
>
>Jeff S.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob Weber [mailto:ruba1811 at hotmail.com]
>Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 10:38 AM
>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Instructional Videos
>
>
>Lou, I am in St. Louis.  I have considered "for profit" production
>before.
>Soon as I become a For Profit business I will be a customer.  I have
>most of
>the red ink covered and next year looks promising.  Odyssey Sailing's 04
>
>season ended with enough working capital to carry me thru the
>non-working
>season.  I have honestly thought of borrowing a camera and filming a few
>
>manuvers and then buying the digital editing software.  The total
>expense,
>not including time, would be about 200 dollars and I am sure the result
>would be about what you would expect from a $200 video.  I am not
>shooting
>down the idea but have a good idea of the cost of a professional job.
>Shoot
>me a ballpark price, Do I get to pick the models? Heck we could do a
>"how
>NOT to" sail.  "Sailing Blonde" might just become a box office hit.
>opps I
>went stream of concience again.  Bob
>
> >From: Lou Rosenberg <steadilsr at verizon.net>
> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Instructional Videos
> >Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:02:46 -0400
> >
> >  BOB,
> >  I would LOVE to work on a sailing instructional video !!
> >  Where are you located?
> >   That would have to be a for profit job for me obviously.
> >  lets talk!
> >  Lou
> >On Friday, October 15, 2004, at 10:57 AM, Bob Weber wrote:
> >
> >>Lou, way to step up to the plate.  I have a side interest in this
> >>since I
> >>teach sailing.  It is hard to explain the difference between tacking
>and
> >>jibing in a classroom with a model boat.  Any footage of simple
>manuvers
> >>would be very helpful.  Eventually you will need help with the cost of
>the
> >>gesture, and I will be glad to help if it could be used for
>instruction.
> >>I would also be glad to assist with any "material" on the current way
> >>things are taught.  Bob
> >>
> >>>From: Lou Rosenberg <steadilsr at verizon.net>
> >>>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Instructional Videos
> >>>Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:20:46 -0400
> >>>
> >>>  I would be willing to edit the footage as long as I wasnt committed
>
> >>>to
> >>>burning all the DVDs.
> >>>  A commercial house needs to be contracted for duplication even in
> >>>relative sm #s ( 1-50).
> >>>  I can handle most digital and analog formats and shoot video for a
> >>>living.
> >>>  I was going to finally get around to posting my stills I shot a few
>
> >>>days ago doing my portlight installation.
> >>>
> >>>On Friday, October 15, 2004, at 09:12 AM, Bill Effros wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>I'm all for someone else doing the work.  I shot sequences of Elton
> >>>>doing these things on Bruce's boat.  I used a digital camera and
>made
> >>>>mpeg movies, as well as a series of still shots to show the sequence
>of
> >>>>things.  I thought we could post them on the web site.  I still have
>all
> >>>>the movies and shots, but never found the time to do anything with
>them.
> >>>>
> >>>>Bill
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Printed copies of my book "Quote Without Comment" are now available
> >>>>from
> >>>>Amazon and all Bookstores.
> >>>>
> >>>>Ask for "Quote Without Comment" by Bill Effros--ISBN 1-5901-9587-6
> >>>>
> >>>>If they are out of stock add the book to your "Wish List" and they
> >>>>will
> >>>>tell you when it is back in stock--usually within 2 days.
> >>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>From: Steve Alm
> >>>>To: Rhodes
> >>>>Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 5:11 AM
> >>>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Instructional Videos
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>All,
> >>>>
> >>>>I haven't forgotten about my little project on the instructions for
> >>>>raising
> >>>>and lowering the mast, but what about a video?
> >>>>
> >>>>Our boat partner, Judi, brought her new video camera along to play
> >>>>with
> >>>>and
> >>>>shot me lowering the mast today.  We shot the whole process with
>lots of
> >>>>close-ups, narration and details.  We were goofing around a lot too
>so
> >>>>this
> >>>>particular "take" is definitely not-ready-for-prime-time  ;-)  but
>it
> >>>>turned
> >>>>out to be pretty cool.
> >>>>
> >>>>But we could make a DVD with raising and lowering the mast, setting
> >>>>up
> >>>>the
> >>>>pop top encl., boom room, under way, sailing tips, cooking, Rummy
> >>>>capsizing,
> >>>>you name it!  Anybody could submit footage and somebody (hahaha)
>could
> >>>>edit
> >>>>it together.
> >>>>
> >>>>Hey!  I volunteer Lou.   8-)
> >>>>
> >>>>Slim
> >>>>
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