[Rhodes22-list] !!
Todd Tavares
sprocket80 at mail.com
Thu Sep 2 20:57:08 EDT 2004
PLEASE CHANGE THE SUBJECT LINE IF YOU WANT TO TALK POLITICS!!!
(yes I am yelling)
----- Original Message -----
From: Ronald Lipton
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 12:09:22 -0500
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list ,stan
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Can a girlyman be a sailor
> Stan,
>
> Thank you very much for taking the time to write your note. I have
> grown
> increasingly cynical about politics, the power all seems to be held
by
> the groups and businesses with the money to buy PR, and not just
> ads but the media themselves. Given the backbiting, the politics of
> personal destruction, the need to kowtow to contributers, I don't
see
> how we even get the small fraction of quality politicians that we
have.
> But it seems that the fraction is getting smaller. There is always
> hope ...
> I guess.
>
> By the way, you can get an interesting perspective on the politics
of
> ; Texas and the nation in the second volume of the Lyndon Johnson
> biography by Robert Caro. The Oil companies and Brown and Root
> (now a division of Haliburton) figure prominently in his first
stolen
> senatorial primary as well as his subsequent career. The more things
> change the more they remain the same.
>
> Ron Lipton
> On Sep 2, 2004, at 9:16 AM, stan wrote:
>
> > We are back to politics? - Wonderful:
> >
> > Notice when it is one of their own they flip flop:
> >
> > Cheney's daughter is gay so he is against the constitution
amendment.
> >
> > Bush's father and TX friends went out of their way to keep him out
of
> > the fray but if you sign up for it like Kerry did, and find it was
a
> > mistake - that is a flip flop.
> >
> > If anyone else is accused of a conflict of interest, like
Clinton's
> > wife was strung up for, that is ok, but the flip flop allows Mrs.
> > Cheney to sit on the board of our huge defense contractor and that
is
> > not a conflict of interest. Under whose definition?.
> >
> > If you want to do the real count on flip flops, see Effros book of
> > quotes to see who leads by a mile.
> >
> > Chris Mathews says the differences in this election are crisp if
you
> > look at the major issues - I liked the way he put the decision
making:
> >
> > If you want to cut taxes proportionally much higher for the
wealthiest
> > of us - you know who to vote for. .
> >
> > If you have reservations on advancing science - you know who to
vote
> > for. (If you have questions on this one, ask president Regan's
son)
> >
> > If you want us to lead the world single handedly - you know who to
> > vote for.
> >
> > If you do not mind someone else's kid dying to secure Feluja (sp?)
as
> > long as it is not you or yours who has to die for this strategic
piece
> > of land needed to keep us free of terrorist - you know who to vote
for
> > (personally I grieve more for the thousands and thousands whose
lives
> > are now shattered by wounds then I do for the ones who may be
going to
> > heaven to get their 40 virgins)
> >
> > If you think the way to have no child left behind is to have the
rest
> > of the children stand still while the left behind kids catch up
and
> > therefore flip flop over the funding of the program as it was
intended
> > - you know who to vote for.
> >
> > If you think being for the environment is passing a law requiring
new
> > energy plants to meet regulations and then allowing all energy
plants
> &g t; to rebuild themselves 99% and call that "not new" so not under
the
> > regulations - you know who to vote for.
> >
> > And if you think the costs of the higher health bills with lower
> > worker productivity that results from dismantling in-place
> > environmental regulations can be made up with tie-ins to a stock
> > market because it always goes up - you know who to vote for.
> >
> > If you agree that the super new debt is going to be taken care of
by
> > the super booming economy just around the corner - you know who to
> > vote for.
> >
> > If you think leadership is someone who sits there for seven
minutes in
> > a helpless state with a totally blanc look when told we are being
> > attacked, or who lands on an aircraft carrier and emerges from a
war
> > plane announcing the war is over when it has not even started, is
t he
> > kind of man we need to lead this country in war - you know who to
vote
> > for.
> >
> > If you think government should stay off your back and not be
telling
> > you how to run your personal business and then flip flops and
tells
> > you what you have to do with your body - you know who to vote for.
> >
> > If you think religion should be allowed to sneak into government
by
> > funding religious organizations and other creeping back door
> > techniques because you think religiously controlled countries are
more
> > likely to live in peace - you know who to vote for - but you don't
> > know your history or current events..
> >
> > sorry, I am running out of time - not issues that make this
election
> > an easy distinction between the two major parties.
> >
> > Just go out and vote - or you deserve what you get. The last
election
> > was lost to the minority by just a handful of voters not voting to
> > counteract a handful of incompetent old Jewish voters who voted
for
> > the favorite son, Buchanan, because they could not make out a
ballot
> > that showed the wrong picture next to the one they actually
intended
> > to make president. Vote. Your vote does make a difference.
> >
> > stan/gbi
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Alm"
> > To: "Rhodes"
> > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 3:11 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Can a girlyman be a sailor
> >
> >
> >> No doubt it takes that kind of fire power to guard the
Republicans
> >> and their
> >> little get-together this week. Without them putting their butts
on
> >> the > >> line, ready to take a bullet for...um...let's see...who?
Just because
> >> you're paranoid doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you. There
must
> >> be
> >> SOMEONE who deserves all that tax-payer money. Would you take a
> >> bullet for
> >> a politician that most of the world hates? I wouldn't. And if
that
> >> makes
> >> me a girlyman, then show me to the pantyhose isle! Maybe the
original
> >> girlyman, Corporal Klinger, had it right all along. 8-)
> >>
> >> Slim
> >>
> >> On 9/1/04 9:19 PM, "Michael Meltzer" wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ok, I have a beer in one hand and bowl of peanuts near the
other.
> >>> Still
> >>> wondering about girlymem, I have to admit the 4 grardsman on
> >>> the train patform looked cute, the 2 state police riding in the
> >>> train car had
> >>> nice hair cuts, The 200 plus cops in thier cute blue
> >>> NYPD uniforms(48 to 58 street, the waldoff did it) while I walk
to
> >>> the office.
> >>> But the cutest of all was the swat terms(NYDP
> >>> specical action units), They look darling standing thier in
thier
> >>> tight
> >>> unimforms, standing thier with thier m16a2 finger indexed
> >>> long the triger(at least point down) and the selector set to 3
> >>> round(I think
> >>> so), I gives me a woody just thinking about it. Bad
> >>> day! haw! How many are putting thier ass on the line.
> >>>
> >>> MJM
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "ed kroposki" < EKROPOSKI at CHARTER.NET>
> >>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 6:53 AM
> >>> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Can a girlyman be a sailor
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Michael:
> >>>> We understand that you had a bad day. The use of alcohol after
such
> >>>> a day yields weird results. Stay away from the bottle.
> >>>> Just tune into Rum Runner music: http://users2.ev1.net/~barr/
> >>>> Listen and you can tell what rum will do to you.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ed K
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
> > ;>>> R22RumRunner at aol.com
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 6:18 AM
> >>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Can a girlyman be a sailor
> >>>>
> >>>> Answer......NO. That would be an oxymoron.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Rummy
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