[Rhodes22-list] you are going to lose one with the flipper

Todd Tavares sprocket80 at mail.com
Thu Sep 2 22:53:31 EDT 2004


   Should I hold my breath?  :-D  or just save it?
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Michael Meltzer
   Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 21:47:43 -0400
   To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
   Subject: [Rhodes22-list] you are going to lose one with the flipper
   > does that work for you?
   >
   > MJM
   >
   > ----- Original Message -----
   > From: "Todd Tavares"
   > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
   > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 8:57 PM
   > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] !!
   >
   >
   > >
   > > PLEASE CHANGE THE SUBJECT LINE IF YOU WANT TO TALK POLITICS!!!
   > >
   > > (yes I am yelling)
   > >
   > > ----- Original Message -----
   > > From: Ronald Lipton
   > > Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 12:09:22 -0500
   > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list ,stan
   > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Can a girlyman be a sailor
   > > > Stan,
   > > >
   > > > Thank you very much for taking the time to write your note. I
   have
   > > > grown
   > > > increasingly cynical about politics, the power all seems to be
   held
   > > by
   > > > the groups and businesses with the money to buy PR, and not just
   > > > ads but the media themselves. Given the backbiting, the politics
   of
   > > > personal destruction, the need to kowtow to contributers, I
   don't
   > > see
   > > > how we even get the small fraction of quality politicians that
   we
   > > have.
   > > > But it seems that the fraction is getting smaller. There is
   always
   > > > hope ...
   > > > I guess.
   > > >
   > > > By the way, you can get an interesting perspective on the
   politics
   > > of
   > > > ; Texas and the nation in the second volume of the Lyndon
   Johnson
   > > > biography by Robert Caro. The Oil companies and Brown and Root
   > > > (now a division of Haliburton) figure prominently in his first
   > > stolen
   > > > senatorial primary as well as his subsequent career. The more
   things
   > > > change the more they remain the same.
   > > >
   > > > Ron Lipton
   > > > On Sep 2, 2004, at 9:16 AM, stan wrote:
   > > >
   > > > > We are back to politics? - Wonderful:
   > > > >
   > > > > Notice when it is one of their own they flip flop:
   > > > >
   > > > > Cheney's daughter is gay so he is against the constitution
   > > amendment.
   > > > >
   > > > > Bush's father and TX friends went out of their way to keep him
   out
   > > of
   > > > > the fray but if you sign up for it like Kerry did, and find it
   was
   > > a
   > > > > mistake - that is a flip flop.
   > > > >
   > > > > If anyone else is accused of a conflict of interest, like
   > > Clinton's
   > > > > wife was strung up for, that is ok, but the flip flop allows
   Mrs.
   > > > > Cheney to sit on the board of our huge defense contractor and
   that
   > > is
   > > > > not a conflict of interest. Under whose definition?.
   > > > >
   > > > > If you want to do the real count on flip flops, see Effros
   book of
   > > > > quotes to see who leads by a mile.
   > > > >
   > > > > Chris Mathews says the differences in this election are crisp
   if
   > > you
   > > > > look at the major issues - I liked the way he put the decision
   > > making:
   > > > >
   > > > > If you want to cut taxes proportionally much higher for the
   > > wealthiest
   > > > > of us - you know who to vote for. .
   > > > >
   > > > > If you have reservations on advancing science - you know who
   to
   > > vote
   > > > > for. (If you have questions on this one, ask president Regan's
   > > son)
   > > > >
   > > > > If you want us to lead the world single handedly - you know
   who to
   > > > > vote for.
   > > > >
   > > > > If you do not mind someone else's kid dying to secure Feluja
   (sp?)
   > > as
   > > > > long as it is not you or yours who has to die for this
   strategic
   > > piece
   > > > > of land needed to keep us free of terrorist - you know who to
   vote
   > > for
   > > > > (personally I grieve more for the thousands and thousands
   whose
   > > lives
   > > ; > > are now shattered by wounds then I do for the ones who may
   be
   > > going to
   > > > > heaven to get their 40 virgins)
   > > > >
   > > > > If you think the way to have no child left behind is to have
   the
   > > rest
   > > > > of the children stand still while the left behind kids catch
   up
   > > and
   > > > > therefore flip flop over the funding of the program as it was
   > > intended
   > > > > - you know who to vote for.
   > > > >
   > > > > If you think being for the environment is passing a law
   requiring
   > > new
   > > > > energy plants to meet regulations and then allowing all energy
   > > plants
   > > > &g t; to rebuild themselves 99% and call that "not new" so not
   under
   > > the
   > > > > regulations - you know who to vote for.
   > > > >
   > > > > And if you think the costs of the higher health bills with
   lower
   > > > > worker productivity that results from dismantling in-place
   > > > > environmental regulations can be made up with tie-ins to a
   stock
   > > > > market because it always goes up - you know who to vote for.
   > > > >
   > > > > If you agree that the super new debt is going to be taken care
   of
   > > by
   > > > > the super booming economy just around the corner - you know
   who to
   > > > > vote for.
   > > > >
   > > > > If you think leadership is someone who sits there for seven
   > > minutes in
   > > > > a helpless state with a totally blanc look when told we are
   being
   > > > > attacked, or who lands on an aircraft carrier and emerges from
   a
   > > war
   > > > > plane announcing the war is over when it has not even started,
   is
   > > t he
   > > > > kind of man we need to lead this country in war - you know who
   to
   > > vote
   > > > > for.
   > > > >
   > > > > If you think government should stay off your back and not be
   > > telling
   > > > > you how to run your personal business and then flip flops and
   > > tells
   > > > > you what you have to do with your body - you know who to vote
   for.
   > > > >
   > > > > If you think religion should be allowed to sneak into
   government
   > > by
   > > > > funding religious organizations and other creeping back door
   > > > > techniques because you think religiously controlled countries
   are
   > > more
   > > > > likely to live in peace - you know who to vote for - but you
   don't
   > > > > know your history or current ev ents..
   > > > >
   > > > > sorry, I am running out of time - not issues that make this
   > > election
   > > > > an easy distinction between the two major parties.
   > > > >
   > > > > Just go out and vote - or you deserve what you get. The last
   > > election
   > > > > was lost to the minority by just a handful of voters not
   voting to
   > > > > counteract a handful of incompetent old Jewish voters who
   voted
   > > for
   > > > > the favorite son, Buchanan, because they could not make out a
   > > ballot
   > > > > that showed the wrong picture next to the one they actually
   > > intended
   > > > > to make president. Vote. Your vote does make a difference.
   > > > >
   > > > > stan/gbi
   > > > >
   > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Alm "
   > > > > To: "Rhodes"
   > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 3:11 AM
   > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Can a girlyman be a sailor
   > > > >
   > > > >
   > > > >> No doubt it takes that kind of fire power to guard the
   > > Republicans
   > > > >> and their
   > > > >> little get-together this week. Without them putting their
   butts
   > > on
   > > > >> the > >> line, ready to take a bullet for...um...let's
   see...who?
   > > Just because
   > > > >> you're paranoid doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you.
   There
   > > must
   > > > >> be
   > > > >> SOMEONE who deserves all that tax-payer money. Would you take
   a
   > > > >> bullet for
   > > > >> a politician that most of the world hates? I wouldn't. And if
   > ; > that
   > > > >> makes
   > > > >> me a girlyman, then show me to the pantyhose isle! Maybe the
   > > original
   > > > >> girlyman, Corporal Klinger, had it right all along. 8-)
   > > > >>
   > > > >> Slim
   > > > >>
   > > > >> On 9/1/04 9:19 PM, "Michael Meltzer" wrote:
   > > > >>
   > > > >>> Ok, I have a beer in one hand and bowl of peanuts near the
   > > other.
   > > > >>> Still
   > > > >>> wondering about girlymem, I have to admit the 4 grardsman on
   > > > >>> the train patform looked cute, the 2 state police riding in
   the
   > > > >>> train car had
   > > > >>> nice hair cuts, The 200 plus cops in thier cute blue
   > > > >>> NYPD uniforms(48 to 58 street, the waldoff did it) while I
   walk
   > > to
   > > > >>> the office.
   > > > >>> But the cutest of all was the swat terms(NYDP
   > > > >>> specical action units), They look darling standing thier in
   > > thier
   > > > >>> tight
   > > > >>> unimforms, standing thier with thier m16a2 finger indexed
   > > > >>> long the triger(at least point down) and the selector set to
   3
   > > > >>> round(I think
   > > > >>> so), I gives me a woody just thinking about it. Bad
   > > > >>> day! haw! How many are putting thier ass on the line.
   > > > >>>
   > > > >>> MJM
   > > > >>>
   > > > >>>
   > > > >>> ----- Original Message -----
   > > > >>> From: "ed kroposki" < EKROPOSKI at CHARTER.NET>
   > > & gt; >>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
   > > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 6:53 AM
   > > > >>> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Can a girlyman be a sailor
   > > > >>>
   > > > >>>
   > > > >>>> Michael:
   > > > >>>> We understand that you had a bad day. The use of alcohol
   after
   > > such
   > > > >>>> a day yields weird results. Stay away from the bottle.
   > > > >>>> Just tune into Rum Runner music:
   http://users2.ev1.net/~barr/
   > > > >>>> Listen and you can tell what rum will do to you.
   > > > >>>>
   > > > >>>> Ed K
   > > > >>>>
   > > > >>>>
   > > > >>>> -----Original Message-----
   > > > >>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces @rhodes22.org
   > > > >>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
   > > > > ;>>> R22RumRunner at aol.com
   > > > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 6:18 AM
   > > > >>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
   > > > >>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Can a girlyman be a sailor
   > > > >>>>
   > > > >>>> Answer......NO. That would be an oxymoron.
   > > > >>>>
   > > > >>>>
   > > > >>>> Rummy
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