[Rhodes22-list] you are going to lose one with the flipper

Michael Meltzer mjm at michaelmeltzer.com
Fri Sep 3 00:38:15 EDT 2004


well it was flame bait for stan :-) so what the hell.....

MJM

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Todd Tavares" <sprocket80 at mail.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] you are going to lose one with the flipper


> 
>   Should I hold my breath?  :-D  or just save it?
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Michael Meltzer
>   Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 21:47:43 -0400
>   To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>   Subject: [Rhodes22-list] you are going to lose one with the flipper
>   > does that work for you?
>   >
>   > MJM
>   >
>   > ----- Original Message -----
>   > From: "Todd Tavares"
>   > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
>   > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 8:57 PM
>   > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] !!
>   >
>   >
>   > >
>   > > PLEASE CHANGE THE SUBJECT LINE IF YOU WANT TO TALK POLITICS!!!
>   > >
>   > > (yes I am yelling)
>   > >
>   > > ----- Original Message -----
>   > > From: Ronald Lipton
>   > > Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 12:09:22 -0500
>   > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list ,stan
>   > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Can a girlyman be a sailor
>   > > > Stan,
>   > > >
>   > > > Thank you very much for taking the time to write your note. I
>   have
>   > > > grown
>   > > > increasingly cynical about politics, the power all seems to be
>   held
>   > > by
>   > > > the groups and businesses with the money to buy PR, and not just
>   > > > ads but the media themselves. Given the backbiting, the politics
>   of
>   > > > personal destruction, the need to kowtow to contributers, I
>   don't
>   > > see
>   > > > how we even get the small fraction of quality politicians that
>   we
>   > > have.
>   > > > But it seems that the fraction is getting smaller. There is
>   always
>   > > > hope ...
>   > > > I guess.
>   > > >
>   > > > By the way, you can get an interesting perspective on the
>   politics
>   > > of
>   > > > ; Texas and the nation in the second volume of the Lyndon
>   Johnson
>   > > > biography by Robert Caro. The Oil companies and Brown and Root
>   > > > (now a division of Haliburton) figure prominently in his first
>   > > stolen
>   > > > senatorial primary as well as his subsequent career. The more
>   things
>   > > > change the more they remain the same.
>   > > >
>   > > > Ron Lipton
>   > > > On Sep 2, 2004, at 9:16 AM, stan wrote:
>   > > >
>   > > > > We are back to politics? - Wonderful:
>   > > > >
>   > > > > Notice when it is one of their own they flip flop:
>   > > > >
>   > > > > Cheney's daughter is gay so he is against the constitution
>   > > amendment.
>   > > > >
>   > > > > Bush's father and TX friends went out of their way to keep him
>   out
>   > > of
>   > > > > the fray but if you sign up for it like Kerry did, and find it
>   was
>   > > a
>   > > > > mistake - that is a flip flop.
>   > > > >
>   > > > > If anyone else is accused of a conflict of interest, like
>   > > Clinton's
>   > > > > wife was strung up for, that is ok, but the flip flop allows
>   Mrs.
>   > > > > Cheney to sit on the board of our huge defense contractor and
>   that
>   > > is
>   > > > > not a conflict of interest. Under whose definition?.
>   > > > >
>   > > > > If you want to do the real count on flip flops, see Effros
>   book of
>   > > > > quotes to see who leads by a mile.
>   > > > >
>   > > > > Chris Mathews says the differences in this election are crisp
>   if
>   > > you
>   > > > > look at the major issues - I liked the way he put the decision
>   > > making:
>   > > > >
>   > > > > If you want to cut taxes proportionally much higher for the
>   > > wealthiest
>   > > > > of us - you know who to vote for. .
>   > > > >
>   > > > > If you have reservations on advancing science - you know who
>   to
>   > > vote
>   > > > > for. (If you have questions on this one, ask president Regan's
>   > > son)
>   > > > >
>   > > > > If you want us to lead the world single handedly - you know
>   who to
>   > > > > vote for.
>   > > > >
>   > > > > If you do not mind someone else's kid dying to secure Feluja
>   (sp?)
>   > > as
>   > > > > long as it is not you or yours who has to die for this
>   strategic
>   > > piece
>   > > > > of land needed to keep us free of terrorist - you know who to
>   vote
>   > > for
>   > > > > (personally I grieve more for the thousands and thousands
>   whose
>   > > lives
>   > > ; > > are now shattered by wounds then I do for the ones who may
>   be
>   > > going to
>   > > > > heaven to get their 40 virgins)
>   > > > >
>   > > > > If you think the way to have no child left behind is to have
>   the
>   > > rest
>   > > > > of the children stand still while the left behind kids catch
>   up
>   > > and
>   > > > > therefore flip flop over the funding of the program as it was
>   > > intended
>   > > > > - you know who to vote for.
>   > > > >
>   > > > > If you think being for the environment is passing a law
>   requiring
>   > > new
>   > > > > energy plants to meet regulations and then allowing all energy
>   > > plants
>   > > > &g t; to rebuild themselves 99% and call that "not new" so not
>   under
>   > > the
>   > > > > regulations - you know who to vote for.
>   > > > >
>   > > > > And if you think the costs of the higher health bills with
>   lower
>   > > > > worker productivity that results from dismantling in-place
>   > > > > environmental regulations can be made up with tie-ins to a
>   stock
>   > > > > market because it always goes up - you know who to vote for.
>   > > > >
>   > > > > If you agree that the super new debt is going to be taken care
>   of
>   > > by
>   > > > > the super booming economy just around the corner - you know
>   who to
>   > > > > vote for.
>   > > > >
>   > > > > If you think leadership is someone who sits there for seven
>   > > minutes in
>   > > > > a helpless state with a totally blanc look when told we are
>   being
>   > > > > attacked, or who lands on an aircraft carrier and emerges from
>   a
>   > > war
>   > > > > plane announcing the war is over when it has not even started,
>   is
>   > > t he
>   > > > > kind of man we need to lead this country in war - you know who
>   to
>   > > vote
>   > > > > for.
>   > > > >
>   > > > > If you think government should stay off your back and not be
>   > > telling
>   > > > > you how to run your personal business and then flip flops and
>   > > tells
>   > > > > you what you have to do with your body - you know who to vote
>   for.
>   > > > >
>   > > > > If you think religion should be allowed to sneak into
>   government
>   > > by
>   > > > > funding religious organizations and other creeping back door
>   > > > > techniques because you think religiously controlled countries
>   are
>   > > more
>   > > > > likely to live in peace - you know who to vote for - but you
>   don't
>   > > > > know your history or current ev ents..
>   > > > >
>   > > > > sorry, I am running out of time - not issues that make this
>   > > election
>   > > > > an easy distinction between the two major parties.
>   > > > >
>   > > > > Just go out and vote - or you deserve what you get. The last
>   > > election
>   > > > > was lost to the minority by just a handful of voters not
>   voting to
>   > > > > counteract a handful of incompetent old Jewish voters who
>   voted
>   > > for
>   > > > > the favorite son, Buchanan, because they could not make out a
>   > > ballot
>   > > > > that showed the wrong picture next to the one they actually
>   > > intended
>   > > > > to make president. Vote. Your vote does make a difference.
>   > > > >
>   > > > > stan/gbi
>   > > > >
>   > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Alm "
>   > > > > To: "Rhodes"
>   > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 3:11 AM
>   > > > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Can a girlyman be a sailor
>   > > > >
>   > > > >
>   > > > >> No doubt it takes that kind of fire power to guard the
>   > > Republicans
>   > > > >> and their
>   > > > >> little get-together this week. Without them putting their
>   butts
>   > > on
>   > > > >> the > >> line, ready to take a bullet for...um...let's
>   see...who?
>   > > Just because
>   > > > >> you're paranoid doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you.
>   There
>   > > must
>   > > > >> be
>   > > > >> SOMEONE who deserves all that tax-payer money. Would you take
>   a
>   > > > >> bullet for
>   > > > >> a politician that most of the world hates? I wouldn't. And if
>   > ; > that
>   > > > >> makes
>   > > > >> me a girlyman, then show me to the pantyhose isle! Maybe the
>   > > original
>   > > > >> girlyman, Corporal Klinger, had it right all along. 8-)
>   > > > >>
>   > > > >> Slim
>   > > > >>
>   > > > >> On 9/1/04 9:19 PM, "Michael Meltzer" wrote:
>   > > > >>
>   > > > >>> Ok, I have a beer in one hand and bowl of peanuts near the
>   > > other.
>   > > > >>> Still
>   > > > >>> wondering about girlymem, I have to admit the 4 grardsman on
>   > > > >>> the train patform looked cute, the 2 state police riding in
>   the
>   > > > >>> train car had
>   > > > >>> nice hair cuts, The 200 plus cops in thier cute blue
>   > > > >>> NYPD uniforms(48 to 58 street, the waldoff did it) while I
>   walk
>   > > to
>   > > > >>> the office.
>   > > > >>> But the cutest of all was the swat terms(NYDP
>   > > > >>> specical action units), They look darling standing thier in
>   > > thier
>   > > > >>> tight
>   > > > >>> unimforms, standing thier with thier m16a2 finger indexed
>   > > > >>> long the triger(at least point down) and the selector set to
>   3
>   > > > >>> round(I think
>   > > > >>> so), I gives me a woody just thinking about it. Bad
>   > > > >>> day! haw! How many are putting thier ass on the line.
>   > > > >>>
>   > > > >>> MJM
>   > > > >>>
>   > > > >>>
>   > > > >>> ----- Original Message -----
>   > > > >>> From: "ed kroposki" < EKROPOSKI at CHARTER.NET>
>   > > & gt; >>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
>   > > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 6:53 AM
>   > > > >>> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Can a girlyman be a sailor
>   > > > >>>
>   > > > >>>
>   > > > >>>> Michael:
>   > > > >>>> We understand that you had a bad day. The use of alcohol
>   after
>   > > such
>   > > > >>>> a day yields weird results. Stay away from the bottle.
>   > > > >>>> Just tune into Rum Runner music:
>   http://users2.ev1.net/~barr/
>   > > > >>>> Listen and you can tell what rum will do to you.
>   > > > >>>>
>   > > > >>>> Ed K
>   > > > >>>>
>   > > > >>>>
>   > > > >>>> -----Original Message-----
>   > > > >>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces @rhodes22.org
>   > > > >>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
>   > > > > ;>>> R22RumRunner at aol.com
>   > > > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 6:18 AM
>   > > > >>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>   > > > >>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Can a girlyman be a sailor
>   > > > >>>>
>   > > > >>>> Answer......NO. That would be an oxymoron.
>   > > > >>>>
>   > > > >>>>
>   > > > >>>> Rummy
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