[Rhodes22-list] What do you do with monsters?

Fri Sep 3 03:02:12 EDT 2004

My 2 cents:
                A couple of questions Steve.  We won the cold war by bombing
the Soviet Union right?  Don't give me the" we were ready to fight or
deterence argument", remember you seem to think any action however ill
thought out is better than thoughtful engagement.

Good point "Lobbing bombs does no good untill the country falls.  Any
country in paticular? Or just one that is convienient.  Oh, that's right we
did that to Iraq and they fell. Mission accomplished!  And look at all the
terrorist who decided to find another job. (many are pushing up daisies
right now, but we have their 13 cousins standing in the dead guys place).
When one of our kids are killed do you want to give it up?  No.  When 1000
of our kids get killed I don't hear you saying that it is time to change
course.  Well what in hell do you think the Islamic terrorists say when we
kill a mess of them?  "Oh lets give up because we are cowards and not
commited".   There will be no military victory, it must be played out on a
much broader field.  Why do so many people think only we will stay the
course and not be detered by the death of of our troops, but those camel
jockeys will shurly cave in any day?
Chris G.
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Date: Friday, September 03, 2004 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] What do you do with monsters?


>Excellent Wally, I will add this one to the list of
>liberal cowards!!!!!!!!!
>Steve
>
>PS - When everyone quits fighting; then no one will be
>free.  Freedom is NOT free. Someone has to fight for
>it.  Remember this when you go to vote.  You can't
>count on a liberal to fight for you.  See
>below!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>--- Wally Buck <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Steve,
>>
>> I am not going to get dragged into another round of
>> politcal emails but
>> ...... are you saying if one is held up a gun point
>> you advice is to fight
>> back? Are you serious?
>>
>> Even if you are packing heat most of us are not real
>> good on the quick draw.
>> I don't carry anything in my wallet that is worth
>> getting shot over. Do you?
>>
>> You have posted many emails that show you have a
>> hard time destinguishing
>> between bravery and common sense. I will just add
>> this one to the list.
>>
>> Yeah I know, you will tell me that I am just a weak
>> liberal blah blah blah
>> ......
>>
>> Hey I am out of here! Spending tonight on the boat,
>> racing in the morning,
>> seafood boil and keg part in the evening! I hope
>> everyone has a great
>> weekend!
>>
>> Wally
>>
>> Wally
>>
>>
>> >From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
>> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> >To: stan <stan at rhodes22.com>,The Rhodes 22 mail
>> list
>> ><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] What do you do with
>> monsters?
>> >Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 10:10:44 -0700 (PDT)
>> >
>> >Stan
>> >I just don't understand why so many of you all
>> worry
>> >so much about our image overseas.  When push comes
>> to
>> >shove; This country is the one that the plantet
>> turns
>> >to to fix the problem.  The French can win
>> anything.
>> >They don't spend enough on weapons.  Germany has
>> had
>> >the crap kick out of it twice last century and
>> doesn't
>> >have what it takes to do anything.  Beside, as the
>> >Democrates say; the USA still Occupies Germany.
>> >
>> >Peace can only remain if a country is willing to
>> fight
>> >for it.  We have to fight and take the fight to
>> them.
>> >Otherwise, they will bring the fight to us.  LIke I
>> >have said before, you can thank Clinton for the
>> 3,000
>> >deaths.  When the terrorists started hammering us;
>> we
>> >should have fought back.  Lobbing bombs does no
>> good
>> >unless it's continueous untill the country falls.
>> >
>> >Gore would not have retaliated after 911.  Why
>> anyone
>> >would think he would is beond me.  After all, what
>> did
>> >Clinton do.  Gore would have followed Clinton lead.
>> >Kerry would make a lousy President.  He has no
>> >balls!!!!!!!!!!!  Bottom line.  You can't have a
>> >President like Kerry in time of war that worries
>> about
>> >making people mad.
>> >
>> >Terrorism is not climing.  We are killing the hell
>> out
>> >of them.  Last I heard, our kill ratio is like way
>> >over 20 to 1.  Sometimes we kill hundreds of them &
>> >maybe only lose 1 of ours.  That great for a war.
>> You
>> >can't ask for better ratio than that.
>> >
>> >Just so everyone know, the only way to make
>> terrorists
>> >act right is kill them.  They act just find when
>> thier
>> >dead.  And we don't have to rebuild anything, what
>> we
>> >are doing in Agfan & Iraq is more than enough.  We
>> >will help them alone and eventually it will get
>> >rebuilt.  And it don't hurt to let them rebuilt it
>> >themselves.  Nothing says we have to do it all for
>> >them.
>> >
>> >Also, the biggest thing that helping in the war on
>> >terrorism; is the fact that we have a BIG miltary
>> >present over in the middle east.  Fully ready to
>> beat
>> >the crap out of any country.
>> >
>> >Anyway, this is a waist of my time but I don't want
>> >this list to be totally without at least one
>> senable
>> >view on how the world works.  If you are ever held
>> up
>> >and someone has a gun in your face, do you coward
>> down
>> >or fight back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Life is not worst
>> living
>> >as a coward.
>> >Steve
>> >
>> >--- stan <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > love politics
>> > >
>> > > My grandkids visited the twin towers a day
>> before
>> > > they collapsed
>> > >
>> > > Nonetheless, this should not be a one issue
>> election
>> > > nor is there any proof
>> > > that no one else could have done a better job
>> > > fighting terrorism after the
>> > > act, than Bush.  For instance, if you would have
>> > > made me dictator I would
>> > > have used all that money to finish what we
>> started
>> > > in Afghanistan and turned
>> > > that into a model country to soften the "Ugly
>> > > American" image.  I won't
>> > > argue the amount but will argue the direction:
>> Not
>> > > following the usual
>> > > American premature bailout policy and instead
>> > > properly implementing our
>> > > stated goals for Afghanistan, would have cut the
>> > > rate of terrorists
>> > > recruitment - now climbing and so increasing our
>> > > need to fight terrorism
>> > > more and more.
>> > >
>> > > Like so many religions, acting like we are the
>> only
>> > > ones with the right
>> > > answer is a sign of the planet's immaturity.  If
>> we
>> > > are lucky, we might live
>> > > to grow up.  But I doubt it - unless you get to
>> work
>> > > on those placards:
>> > > Spitzer for Dictator, He is the only one with
>> the
>> > > right answers.
>> > >
>> > >     (that's the problem with dictators - they
>> get
>> > > carried away - anyone got
>> > > a better answer - or at least, anyone for
>> tennis?
>> > > One of the richest
>> > > prospects I ever met said to me, "It is too
>> late,
>> > > enjoy yourself.").
>> > >
>> > > stan/gbi
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Gardner, Douglas (LNG-DAY)"
>> > > <douglas.gardner at lexisnexis.com>
>> > > To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
>> > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> > > Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 10:02 AM
>> > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] What do you do with
>> > > monsters?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > While we're so focused on Bush attacking
>> Kerry's
>> > > service in vietnam, and
>> > > > Kerry attacking Bush & Cheney's avoidance of
>> > > service in vietnam, I'd like
>> > > > to
>> > > > point to Russia for a second:
>> > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3624024.stm
>> > > >
>> > > > and ask a question: What do you do with people
>> who
>> > > believe killing
>> > > > children
>> > > > is a good way to get sympathy for their cause?
>> > > >
>> > > > I'll leave my comments at the question.
>> Because
>> > > right now, my own
>> > > > thoughts
>> > > > on this matter are simply too ugly to write
>> down,
>> > > and certainly too ugly
>> > > > to
>> > > > broadcast in public.
>> > > >
>> > > > After my anger subsides a bit, I might return
>> to
>> > > my beliefs in the rights
>> > > > afforded to people in our Constitution and the
>> > > Bill of Rights, the
>> > > > importance of due process, and my beliefs that
>> you
>> > > must not punish a
>> > > > person
>> > > > for the offenses of another.
>> > > >
>> > > > For now, I'll let my anger seethe and wonder
>> what
>> > > kind of pathological
>> > > > society or religion could allow these kinds of
>> > > acts to go unpunished.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --Doug
>> > > >
>> > > > PS: lest anyone be confused... no, I do not
>> intend
>> > > this message to imply I
>> > > > support Bush. Please see my references to the
>> > > constitution and bill of
>> > > > rights before you infer who I support for
>> > > president. My preferred
>> > > > candidate
>> > > > isn't running. You cannot defeat hate and
>> > > injustice with more hate and
>> > > > more
>> > > > injustice.  I'll speak no more on that subject
>> in
>> > > this forum.
>> > > >
>> > > >
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