[Rhodes22-list] What do you do with monsters?

[Steve]

See below.  I will write inside message:

--- Wally Buck <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:

> I don't know why I will bother but I will give it a
> shot. Keep in mind I am 
> still not sure if I will vote for Kerry or go
> Libertarian. I have voted 
> thrid party several times in the past and most
> likely will do so this time.
> 
> Typically our country runs better with split
> congress and executive branch 
> (check history books for this fact)
> 
> He would most likely reign in republican pork
>
So called republican port allow companies to produce
goods or services with a higher profit margin.  The
higher the profit margin, the more workers the
companies will need to hire to produce more of the
goods & services to maintain its market share.
    
> He would not pass a subsidy for drug companies

R&D is the most expensive component of drugs.  US drug
companies lead the world in new chemical compounds
that have lead to the outpatient medical practice that
we see today.  Due to all the R&D, most inpatient
stays at a hospital are overnight.  This R&D is being
passed on to US citizens which is why we pay higher
prices for our drugs here in the US as oppose to other
countries where its citizens cannot afford them.  This
is why the Bush administration went with the subidies
for drug companies in the Medicare PD plan so as to
spread the costs out to all the taxpayers whereas the
elderly can buy thier drugs at a lower cost.
> 
> He would do a better job protecting our environment
>
I will give you this one but here is my point.  There
are many enviromental laws already on the books.  And
thier not going away.  Some have been lossen up while
this country pulls out of this recession but the basic
principles are still there.  Again, companies must
make money in order to hire new workers.  During a
recession, if you lossen up enviroment rules,
companies can adjust its spending to focus on its core
reason for being which is to manufacture its goods or
services which lead to new hiring.

> He would not be beholding to oil companies
> 
I have seen nothing that show that Bush is beholden to
oil companies.  All his policies have been equal to
all player to get this country back on its feet. 
Example, the tariffs on steel.  Steel workers are
union workers which are usually democrats.  Bush is
pretty fair in my opinion.  

> He would do a better job supporting development of
> alternative fuels
> 
Bush is supporting development of alternative fuels. 
He have put more taxpayers money into this than
Clinton did.  But one thing to keep in mind as it
relates to this, until Americans decide to enbrace
alternative fuels, they will keep buying these gas
gussiling SUV.  Yes, I own a Big Chevy gas drinking
truck but most of the democrates I work with own them
too.  Note: you don't see John Kerry driving
alternative fuel car!  

> Support the scientific community and medical
> research
> 
I don't know why you quote this one due to Bush has
put NASA into a mode to try and put a man on Mars. 
NASA is the backbone for scientific inventsions. 
Things that NASA invents works it way down into our
everyday life.  Stem cell research is funded by the
government but under moral principles.  Private sector
stem cell research is not governer or regulated.

> Protect womens rights
> 
Bush protects all womens rights.  He has done nothing
that would suggust otherwise. 

> He will appoint judges that respect the constitution
> and our rights.
> 
I strongly disagree here.  Bush is a strong supporter
of the constitution.  If you look at all the cases of
judges that are NOT following the constitution;those
are liberal judges NOT conservative ones.  I have yet
to see a conservative judge sway from the written law.
 But there are many examples of liberal judes that
pass down rulings that are is sharp contrast to what
the law actually says.   


> He will not confuse Al Queda with Saddam.
> 
The war on terror has many fronts.  Al Queda &
Afganisam was the 1st front.  Saddam would not comply
with the UN.  The UN was being made to look like a
joke.  14 resolutions place on him & he still would
not comply.  The problem had to be dealt with.  The
Iraq people were being brutalize & killed and it
needed to stop. The world knew he had WMD; he used
them on his own people.  What he did with them, I
don't know.  But we do keep finding all kinds of stuff
out in the deasert.  For us to win the war on terror,
(remember we don't want to have to live like Israeli
where we have bombing in our streets everyday.  We
must take the fight to them.  If countries our
harboring terrorists, then those countries must be
dealt with so that the world know that this is NOT
acceptable behavior.

> I realize all of the above is just speculation but
> based on what I have seen 
> from Bush i would be willing to take my chances with
> just about anybody. He 
> is spending our money like a drunken sailor. 

The US is the riches country on the plantet.  We must
step up to the plate and lead.  If we don't set an
example, Who Will?  Remember, this so called deficit
could be eliminated in a couple years if we reduced
walfare programs.  We have to many welfare programs
and they do nothing to promote new jobs and/or
stimulate the economy.  US companies do that!

The
> best I can tell terrorism 
> is on the rise world wide. I can't really blame Bush
> for that but I don't 
> think our foreign policy has helped the situation.
> If anything he has made 
> it worse.
> 
Terrorism is not on the rise.  We are eliminating it. 
We are killing them dead everyday.  What you are
seeing on the liberal media is the media trying to
paint a pictures worst than what it is.  Remember,
ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN are all Liberal Medias and they
promote Kerry.  YOu will never see anything on them
that show Bush in a good light.  It won't happen. 

> I am wondering if you can act like a big boy and
> respond without resorting 
> to abusive name calling.
> 
How was this?????????


> Wally
> 
> 
> 
> >From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] What do you do with
> monsters?
> >Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 05:56:36 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Chris
> >Check the polls.  Of course you will find out for
> sure
> >come November.  BTW: I have yet to see one good
> >argument from all you liberals on what Kerry can do
> >good for this country.  All I keep hearing is Bush
> >bashing.  Kerry has no good record to talk about.
> >
> >Again, he has voted against every major weapons
> system
> >that keep this country free.  Explain
> that!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >Steve
> >
> >
> >--- Chris Geankoplis <napoli68 at charter.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Steve,
> > >  The strength of your logic and comprehension of
> the
> > > constitution are in
> > > inverse proportion to the depth of your name
> > > calling.  There is no way that
> > > you represent the mainstream of America or even
> the
> > > Republican party.
> > >
> > > Chris G.
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Steve <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Date: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 1:28 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] What do you do with
> > > monsters?
> > >
> > >
> > > >Wally / Eric
> > > >For the record, I question anyone patriotism
> when
> > > all
> > > >they do is talk liberial crap.  I question John
> > > Kerry
> > > >patriotism, I question his honor, and I
> question
> > > his
> > > >seft serving attitude.
> > > >
> > > >When it time to fight; this country has to
> LEAD.
> > > And
> > > >I question liberal democrats patriotism for not
> > > >knowing the need to FIGHT FOR FREEDOM.  YES YOU
> ARE
> > > >COWARDS.  AND IF YOU DON'T WANT TO FIGHT FOR
> THIS
> > > >COUNTRY; GET THE FUCK OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > >
> > > >You democrats do nothing to help this country. 
> You
> > > >are a drain on it resources.  YOu wonder why
> > > Companies
> > > >out source jobs to other countries; IT'S
> BECAUSE OF
> > > >ALL THE LAZY ASS DEMOCRATS THAT WON'T PUT IN A
> HARD
> > > >DAY WORK FOR THEIR PAYCHECK.  Companies are not
> a
> > > >welfare program.  Work for you paycheck.
> > > >
> > > >This election is all about the WAR.  Who will
> > > defend
> > > >this country against all the terrorists who are
> > > >willing to kill democrats and republicans &
> > > >independents.  The answere is George W. Bush. 
> John
> > > >Kerry is a flip flop, can't decide what side of
> the
> > > >fence he is on, say whatever the crowd whats -
> > > LIBERAL
> > > >DEMOCRAT.   John Kerry CANNOT be trusted to
> defend
> > > >this country.
> > > >
> > > >As far as any of you people not liking what I
> have
> > > to
> > > >say about liberal democrats - KISS MY COUNTRY
> > > >ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > >
> > > >When it come to my family life, I know that
> George
> > > W.
> > > >Bush will do what is necessary to defend this
> > > country.
> > > > Which may mean invade Iran, North Korea and
> any
> > > other
> > > >country that posise a threat.
> > > >
> > > >And quit worring about out solders.  That are
> the
> > > best
> > > >fighting men in the world.  Yes, we may lose a
> few,
> > > >But thier fighting for liberity, freedom for
> people
> > > >that the rest of the world like France &
> Germany
> > > won't
> > > >help.  We American help; that what we do.  LIVE
> > > WITH
> > > >IT!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > >STEVE
> > > >
> > > >PS - and if you don't like this; do the letter
> F  O
> > > >mean anything.  If you are a coward, learn to
> live
> > > >with it; or change yourself.
> > > >
> > > >--- Wally Buck <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Eric,
> > > >>
> > > >> You are quite welcome. Steve has insulted my
> > > >> "liberal" family members who
> > > >> served as well. I have tried explaining to
> Steve
> > > >> that I usually am quite
> > > >> conservative but I was against the US
> invading
> > > Iraq
> > > >> when we did. I still am
> > > >> today. Steve thinks just because someone is
> > > against
> > > >> the war with Iraq they
> > > >> are liberal cowards. He seems to be the only
> one
> > > on
> > > >> this list who cannot
> > > >> communicate his view without resorting to
> > > insults.
> > > >> Some folks either don't
> > > >> know US history or chose to ignore it. It
> seems
> > > to
> > > >> me several democrats have
> > > >> led this nation into war/armed conflicts,
> think
> > > FDR,
> > > >> Truman, Kennedy,
> > > >> Johnson and yes even Clinton.
> > > >>
> > > >> Wally
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> >From: eric.charles.newburger at census.gov
> > > >> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > >> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > >> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > >> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] What do you do
> with
> > > >> monsters?
> > > >> >Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 14:53:22 -0400
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Thank you, Wally, for your reply to Steve.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >A lot of my liberal family members have
> served
> > > in
> > > >> the military...my Father,
> > > >> >Step Father, Father in Law, Uncles, others.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >I didn't like reading words that impugned
> their
> > > >> honor.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >I wrote a rather uncivil reply, which I've
> kept
> > > to
> > > >> myself.  I much prefer
> > > >> >Wally's.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Eric Newburger
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > >
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