[Rhodes22-list] Outboards

[Bill Effros]

Ron,

People are getting badgered out of their 2-strokes--there are a whole lot of them around.  People are not selling them because they don't know what to do with them and everyone now thinks they want to buy a 4-stroke.  Stan might have a shed full of them--seek and ye shall find.

Bill


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Ronald Lipton 
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list 
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Outboards


Bill,

      I agree that it might make more sense to find a used two stroke.  
In my brief internet
search there do not seem to be too many used two stroke long shafts 
available.  I suspect
that when all the manufacturers went to the four strokes the used two 
strokes became
a lot more desirable.  In any case I will spend the week looking around 
for used two
strokes before I go for the new Nissan.

Ron
On Sep 12, 2004, at 7:06 AM, Bill Effros wrote:

> Ron,
>
> Here we go again, but...
>
> My electric starting 8 hp Tohatsu (Nissan) weighs 53 pounds, I think.  
> Whatever it is, I carry it around by myself.
>
> It is 14 years old, totally reliable, and maybe has 150 hours of use.
>
> It is a 2-stroke, and I'm sure you could get one like it for a song.
>
> Why spend $1,000, consume valuable resources, and pollute the 
> environment by encouraging the manufacture of unneeded outboards, when 
> you can pick up a completely reliable, low mileage, used 2-stroke 
> outboard for a fraction of that cost.
>
> The 4-stroke engines have not proved to be reliable on Rhodes-22s 
> because they are so seldom used.  People on this list pour massive 
> quantities of "additives" (read that to mean oil) into the gas tanks 
> of their 4-strokes to keep them properly lubricated.  The way we use 
> 4-strokes on our sailboats, they are no cleaner than the way we use 2 
> stroke engines on our sailboats.
>
> (There has never been a year when I used more than a quart of 
> oil--some people with 4-strokes are dumping that much oil into every 
> tank of gas.)
>
> I would highly recommend the Tohatsu/Nissan 2 stroke 8hp electric 
> starting engine with the Tohatsu remote throttle/start mechanism 
> (which can be purchased separately, and is easily installed.)
>
> Bill Effros
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ronald Lipton
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 11:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Outboards
>
>
> Thanks for all of the advice and comments.  I am mulling the options
> over.
> My Mercury 9.9 has electric start
> and an alternator.  I hardly ever use the batteries except for running
> lights and
> my solar panel does fine in keeping the batteries charged, so I think
> that the
> alternator is unnecessary for me. The electric start is a real
> convenience but
> I would rather have a lighter engine that I can carry without a back
> injury.  The
> Honda 8 and 9.8 are about 100 pounds.  The Nissan 6 is 55.
>
> I sail from a mooring and, if possible
> I try to leave and return so that if the engine fails I can sail in
> without panic.
> That has happened my last two  sails.  The harbor has a north
> and a south entrance, so that can be done fairly easily.  It
> helps if the wind is light, sailing in a crowded mooring with a stiff
> breeze can
> be a challenge.  The easily adjustable sail area of the Rhodes helps
> control,
> and I usually use the main only and furl it down as I approach the
> mooring.
>
> thanks again for the comments
>
> Ron
>
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