[Rhodes22-list] Model RC Sailboats, was Weber's Analysis of Lee helm

Mon Sep 20 09:49:26 EDT 2004

Thanks Lloyd.

Wally

>From: "Lloyd Crowther" <lcrowther at cox.net>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Model RC Sailboats,was Weber's Analysis of Lee 
>helm
>Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:06:08 -0400
>
>Wally,
>
>My CR 419 uses the same two controls, both sails on one control and the
>rudder on the other.  You can adjust the relationship between the Jib and
>Main to get the right slot effect since both sheets have sliding 
>adjustments
>for tuning purposes but you can not readjust the relationship between the
>sails using the radio controls.  All the rigging can be adjusted in the 
>same
>way so there is sometimes a scramble between races to retune the boats to
>accommodate changing wind conditions.
>
>  Incidentally, I installed my antenna under the foredeck because the 
>people
>who race say the standard outside antenna location, upright near the stern,
>tends to catch on the rigging of other boats in close situations.  Doesn't
>seem to reduce the range of my reception when I am sailing the boat where
>there are no other boats around.  The radio frequencies are more of a
>problem for racing because certain harmonics tend to interfere with the
>frequencies of other boats.  At Annapolis the have extra spare chips
>available at every race.  Of course, no two boats can be controlled using
>the same frequency in the same race so part of the entrance procedure
>consists of checking the frequency of every entrant's chips and weighing
>each boat to make sure them meet the minimum weight class rules.  Regular
>entrants get assigned frequencies within a club but as one moves up during
>the course of elimination in major regional events it is possible one may
>have to change a frequency chip between elimination heats.
>
>Lloyd
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Wally Buck" <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
>To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 10:13 AM
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Model RC Sailboats,was Weber's Analysis of Lee
>helm
>
>
> > Bill,
> >
> > I would rather have a sunfish! In a boat that small I would rather keep 
>it
> > simple.
> >
> > Lloyd and Jeff, - I really have enjoyed sailing a friends RC sailboat. 
>It
> > will bury the rail! It was not a kit, just something he purchased as a
> > Christmas gift for his 14 year old. One control for rudder. the other
> > controll is for sail trim. The jib and main were on the same sail trim
> > control. They were both let out or hauled in at the same time. Are 
>others
> > set up with more controllers? It was very easy to use.
> >
> > Thanks for the info.
> >
> > Wally
> >
> >
> > >From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
> > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Model RC Sailboats,was Weber's Analysis of
>Lee
> > >helm
> > >Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 15:51:47 -0400
> > >
> > >A few years ago at a boat show I saw a guy selling a scale model of an
> > >America's Cup yacht.  It had all the rigging and controls of the full
>size
> > >boat, but you sat in a little cockpit like a Kayak.  He said there were 
>a
> > >number of fleets of these things, that raced.  The idea was that it 
>took
>a
> > >similar level of skill, without as much cost.  But, they weren't cheap 
>as
>I
> > >remember.
> > >
> > >Has anyone seen this thing?
> > >
> > >
> > >Bill Effros
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Lloyd Crowther
> > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > >Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 3:10 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Model RC Sailboats,was Weber's Analysis of
>Lee
> > >helm
> > >
> > >
> > >Wally and Jeff,
> > >
> > >I built a CR 914 kit the winter before last.  It is 36" long and also 
>has
>a
> > >detachable keel similar to that on the Victoria.  But I think the CR 
>914
> > >would capsize if the keel was detached for whatever reason and the boat
>was
> > >in, or put into, the water; what with the 49" mast, all that rigging, 
>the
> > >sails, and the radio gear very near the waterline.  Took me months to
> > >finish
> > >but it sails well.  My youngest son gave it to me for Christmas with 
>the
> > >idea that I could race it if and when I sold Uhuru II.  There are 
>several
> > >clubs around the country dedicated to racing them, however I have yet 
>to
> > >race mine (Sail Number 1007).  One of the most active clubs is in
> > >Annapolis,
> > >they race weekly year around and the current national champion hails 
>from
> > >that club.  The U.S. distributor also belongs to that club and usually 
>is
> > >way up in the national ratings.  The CR 914 appears at the Annapolis 
>Sail
> > >Boat show every October and anyone can try them out there.
> > >
> > >Lloyd
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: <JSusanj at aol.com>
> > >To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 1:33 PM
> > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Weber's Analysis of Lee helm
> > >
> > >
> > > > I have a Victoria with a detachable keel.  I have not yet completed
> > >building it but I have sailed one belonging to a friend.  Most
>importantly,
> > >the keel detaches by removing a nut on the deck.  The bolt that holds 
>it
>on
> > >travels through a watertight tube in the hull so the boat will not take
>on
> > >water even when the keel is off.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jeff S.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________
> > > >
> > > > Bob Webe wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Wally, I donno.  I have been looking at it in the window of the 
>hobby
> > >shop.
> > > > Odyssey Sailing School needed a new Model sailboat for my 
>presentation
> > >and
> > > > had a good year so I bought it.  It was about 150.  The sucker is 
>too
> > >big
> > > > though.  Maby a 3 foot mast and 8 inch draft.  Combined it is bigger
> > >than
> > >my
> > > > car can accomadate.  The Keel took a couple hits and go a nice split
>on
> > >the
> > > > aft edge.  On its second voyage it started taking water.  Anyway I
>think
> > >I
> > > > got the Keel (a bulb keel on a flimsy skeg) straightened out and 
>water
> > > > tight.  I have a class this weekend and might have enough time to
>play.
> > >My
> > > > marina is starting to get a fleet.  I missed the innaugral regatta 
>but
>I
> > >got
> > > > a lowdown which might help with your decison.  I will paste it 
>below.
> > > > That was cool last weekend with the RC Boats.
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