[Rhodes22-list] Terrorism vs. Radical Islam

[Steve Alm]

Brad,

Nobody wants to hear what musicians say about politics?  Hello?  Bob Dylan,
Bob Marley, Bruce Springsteen, Woody Guthrie, the frickin' Smothers
Brothers?  8-)  LOL

Listen here Mr-high-and-mighty-nothing-but-a-glorified-errand-boy,   8-)
(I kill me)  come Nov. 2nd, my vote'll count just as much as yours or Alice
Cooper's!

Slim



On 9/27/04 10:15 PM, "brad haslett" <flybrad at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Steve,
> 
> This will be quick, I've got to burn some midnight
> oil. Literally.
> 
> What religion is ahead on the body count throughout
> history is immaterial.  Clinton sent the military to
> the Balkans to protect Muslims from Christians. Janet
> Reno launched her troops against Christians in Waco.
> If you act outside the law you get smacked.  Right now
> ALL the terrorists have been radical Muslims.
> 
> My point about the Royal Saudis being party animals
> was to show how they profess piety to the minions but
> love sex, drugs, and rock and roll themselves.  Which
> by the way, did you see Alice Cooper's comments last
> week?  Cooper said "musicians party all night, do
> drugs, chase women, why does anyone care what they
> have to say about politics".
> 
> We'll talk about the French later, I gotta go fly.
> 
> Brad Haslett
> "CorsShen" 
> 
> 
> --- Steve Alm <salm at mn.rr.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Brad, comments below:
>> 
>> On 9/27/04 5:37 PM, "brad haslett"
>> <flybrad at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>> but when your religion
>>> tells you to kill all who don't believe as you,
>>> there's a problem.
>> 
>> Throughout Western history, no group has done this
>> more than the Christians.
>> 
>>  
>> (I used to train with the Saudi Air
>>> pilots, Americans, and have heard all their
>> stories
>>> about the flights to LAX to re-whore the harem.
>> 
>> I know more than a few American rock and rollers who
>> do the same thing.
>> 
>> 
>> The Shah of Iran, despite his
>>> faults, oversaw rapidly improving conditions for
>> his
>>> population. 
>> 
>> Brad, "..despite his faults..." is just not enough
>> syllables.  It glosses
>> over the atrocities committed, even sanctioned by
>> the US.
>> 
>> 
>> Taking a
>>> chance on dying and perhaps the 40 to 60 virgins
>>> (whatever) not being there won't seem nearly as
>>> attractive when you can enjoy some of the comforts
>> the
>>> 21st century, running water for example.
>> 
>> So it's come down to running water now vs. virgins
>> in the hereafter?  Aren't
>> there any other choices?
>> 
>> 
>> You'll notice France
>>> isn't taking any chances with them.  Have you
>> followed
>>> the news on how they are treating their own
>>> substantial Muslim population?
>> 
>> By far, the most substantial religion in France is
>> Catholicism, and they're
>> playing that down as well.  The French have always
>> been very secular.
>> 
>> Slim
>> 
>>> 
>>>> Guys, I hear what you are saying about the
>> attitudes
>>>> of Muslims on the street towards the United
>> States.
>>>> But, I have a hard time declaring this a war
>> against
>>>> Islam.
>>>> 
>>>> We're talking about the Fertile Crescent here,
>> the
>>>> cradle of civilization.  The folks in this area
>> of
>>>> the world were building great engineering marvels
>>>> like the Ziggurat Pyramids, aqueducts, the
>> Hanging
>>>> Gardens of Babylon, & living in big cities when
>> my
>>>> ancestors in northern Europe were barely out of
>> the
>>>> stone age living in thatched huts.  These folks
>> have
>>>> a culture that goes back several millennia & gave
>> us
>>>> some of the 1st known written languages, the
>> legal
>>>> code of Hamurabi, as well as great literature
>> such
>>>> as the epic of Gilgamish.  To think that these
>>>> people with their long tradition of engineering
>>>> excellence, creativity, & scholarship would not
>> be
>>>> able to produce their own chemical & biological
>>>> weapons given the amount of time & resources
>>>> available is ridiculous at the very least & tends
>> to
>>>> smell like some sort of racial bias.  Anyone who
>>>> discounts their capability does so at their own
>>>> peril.
>>>> 
>>>> I think a lot of our problems with the Muslim
>> world
>>>> stem from our relationship with Israel & with a
>>>> general frustration with the continuing bloodshed
>> &
>>>> chaos in the region.  Whether it's fixable is not
>>>> clear at this point.
>>>> 
>>>> Roger Pihlaja
>>>> S/V Dynamic Equilbrium
>>>> 
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