[Rhodes22-list] Brad - Air Conditioning

Bill Effros bill at effros.com
Thu Jun 2 10:51:56 EDT 2005


Thanks,

A lot of people think I am the box.

Bill Effros

brad haslett wrote:

>Bill,
>
>That's brilliant, so simple and so, Jed Clampett!  I
>love it.  Click this for your present for your
>creative thinking.
>
>http://www.cartoonbank.com/product_details.asp?mscssid=QXGHPJ4WV9C49LFK12RG26XCJNN5BVS6&sitetype=1&did=4&sid=40533&whichpage=1&sortBy=popular&keyword=cats+box&section=cartoons
>
>Brad
>
>--- Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>How about hoisting the generator up the mast?
>>
>>It only weighs 20 something pounds.
>>
>>You could connect the output to your shore power
>>input.
>>
>>Bill Effros
>>
>>Always trying to help.
>>
>>brad haslett wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Bill,
>>>
>>>I hadn't really thought about it that way.  What's
>>>      
>>>
>>the
>>    
>>
>>>name of that new Jane Fonda flick?
>>>
>>>Here's what I had in mind, found this on an RV
>>>      
>>>
>>site.
>>    
>>
>>>http://www.magnacoach.com/genturi.html
>>>
>>>The people that flock to NASCAR races have the same
>>>problem, lots of RVs in close proximity with
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>>>
>>exhaust
>>    
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>>>gasses down low.  In fact, the RV market has had
>>>      
>>>
>>some
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>>>cases of sucking generator fumes in open windows. 
>>>That's why most keep CO alarms on board.
>>>
>>>Frankly, I'm more than happy to spend overnights at
>>>the dock.  This research is more for my friend Ken
>>>      
>>>
>>and
>>    
>>
>>>his anticipated boat purchase.  He's already
>>>      
>>>
>>survived
>>    
>>
>>>being hit by a train, running his airplane out of
>>>      
>>>
>>gas,
>>    
>>
>>>and at least one jealous husband.  He'll be fine!
>>>
>>>Brad
>>>
>>>--- Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Brad,
>>>>
>>>>I see your point.  It appears there are only about
>>>>        
>>>>
>>2
>>    
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>>>>deaths a year from 
>>>>carbon monoxide poisoning in airplanes, and you
>>>>would normally have 3 on 
>>>>board, so your odds of everyone on board dying in
>>>>        
>>>>
>>a
>>    
>>
>>>>single incident in a 
>>>>single year look pretty remote.
>>>>
>>>>On the other hand, the FAA frowns on airplane
>>>>exhaust systems that rely 
>>>>on coffee can masks and lines holding hoses up
>>>>masts.
>>>>
>>>>Did you ever think that maybe, just maybe, the
>>>>stifling heat and lack of 
>>>>wind are God's way of telling you that a given day
>>>>with your family 
>>>>might better be spent at an air conditioned movie?
>>>>
>>>>Bill
>>>>
>>>>brad haslett wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>Bill,
>>>>>
>>>>>"Children and small wives die faster?"  I hadn't
>>>>>really thought of that but there may be a
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>business
>>    
>>
>>>>>opportunity here. 
>>>>>
>>>>>Actually I'm well aware of the dangers of carbon
>>>>>monoxide risks, remember, my first job in the
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>aviation
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>industry was as an airframe and powerplant
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>mechanic. 
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>Small airplanes use a shroud around the muffler
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>to
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>>>>>warm ambient air and pump it into the cabin.  Any
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>leak
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>in the muffler provides a straight flow of
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>exhaust
>>    
>>
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>to
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>the cockpit.
>>>>>
>>>>>My boat doesn't have an in-cabin location that
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>would
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>be suitable for locating a genset without using
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>up
>>    
>>
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>too
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>much space or being to noisy (same as the R-22). 
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>The
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>only logical location for the Honda would be
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>topsides.
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>On larger boats, sailboats included, the genset
>>>>>exhausts via an underwater thru-hull, same as the
>>>>>engine.  The bulk of the deaths from gensets have
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>been
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>on houseboats that port exhaust near a swim
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>platform
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>where it accumulates.  The beauty of Bob's design
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>is
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>that it takes the exhaust up high where it would
>>>>>dissapate.  The attraction of mounting the Honda
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>in
>>    
>>
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>an
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>industrial storage bin or cooler is to quiet it
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>even
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>more but might require installing a cooling air
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>intake
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>fan and perhaps an exhaust fan as well.  Really
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>pretty
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>simple stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>>We motored today for about an hour until the wind
>>>>>picked up.  My little 13hp diesel starts to smell
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>in
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>the cabin after awhile.  There are no exhaust
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>leaks,
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>diesels just stink (unless they are running on
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>used
>>
>>    
>>
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