[Rhodes22-list] Wally's reply- not on WMD

Wally Buck tnrhodey at hotmail.com
Fri Jun 10 09:01:21 EDT 2005


Brad,

Good luck with your son's decision.

Wally

>From: brad haslett <flybrad at yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Wally's reply- not on WMD
>Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:49:30 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Wally,
>
>First, you need to be a bit more PC.  My 'boy' Ford?
>You would get a "nine" up your butt for saying that in
>this town.  Unfortunately, Ford Junior seems to be a
>nice kid and is on track to be our next Senator if not
>something bigger down the road. Bad timing for him.
>His father was a crook, his uncle is going to jail for
>being a crook,  but for the race card which will
>surely be played, just like it was for Harold, Senior.
>  I'm not quite sure why Jr. wants to leave his secure
>congressional seat for the Senate, but hey, it's his
>life.  The only Republican announced against him is
>that idiot that ran against Bredeson for governor.
>
>I do think Iraq is turning but it will be a "long row
>to hoe".  My youngest son is still on the verge of
>enlisting.  I'm pushing Navy and Air Force but we'll
>see.  This is where the "rubber meets the road"
>between your political beliefs and reality.
>
>Brad
>
>
>
>--- Wally Buck <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Brad,
> >
> > My nephew emails me every month or so with updates
> > from Iraq. It does seem
> > we are making progress. In the end history will be
> > the judge.
> >
> > How about your boy Ford. It sure doesn't take much
> > to buy a TN politician.
> > :-0
> >
> > Wally
> >
> > >From: brad haslett <flybrad at yahoo.com>
> > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Wally's reply-  not on
> > WMD
> > >Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:36:59 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >Wally,
> > >
> > >Yesterday I got the opportunity to "de-brief" a
> > >helicopter pilot just returned from Iraq.  I had a
> > >jumpseater on my flight from DC to Memphis who was
> > >meeting a former co-worker for a "meet&greet" with
> > our
> > >chief pilot to get on the short list for a pilot
> > job
> > >interview.  The jumpseater introduced me to his
> > friend
> > >who belonged to a Guard unit from NY that had been
> > >activated.  She was home on medical leave because
> > of a
> > >broken foot (not combat related).
> > >
> > >Here was her take on Iraq.  A lot of positive
> > progress
> > >is being made that isn't being reported by the MSM.
> > >The military is putting a great deal of efforts
> > >turning the Iraqi kids to our side, schools, soccer
> > >fields, etc.  She felt most of the adults were
> > happy
> > >we were there and more than happy that Saddam is
> > gone,
> > >but, many are wary and cautious after 30 years of
> > >oppression.  Insurgency is a huge problem and the
> > bad
> > >guys are difficult to identify because people are
> > >scared to turn them in, not that the average Iraqi
> > >supports the insurgents.  Here, we'd call the cops
> > if
> > >we thought our neighbor was engaged in illegal
> > >activity.  There, they and their family are killed
> > if
> > >they rat the bad guys out.  Most are not Iraqi's
> > but
> > >jihadists from other countries.  It will continue
> > to
> > >be a problem for some time.  She felt good about
> > her
> > >duty there and supported the war but expressed that
> > >morale was fading amongst the troops because of the
> > >long and extended deployments.  I asked her
> > >specifically what her take was on WMD and she gave
> > me
> > >this question and answer.  "Captain, haven't you
> > ever
> > >made a decision in the jet based on the information
> > >you had at the time and realized later there were
> > >other options? Bush made a decision on the intel he
> > >was given, the CIA and everybody got it wrong".
> > For
> > >the most part, she was upbeat and proud of her
> > service
> > >and thought she and her unit were having a positive
> > >impact.
> > >
> > >Some people don't support the war because they just
> > >don't like war.  Who does?  Most of the
> > non-supporters
> > >just hate W.  Regardless, we're stuck with this
> > thing
> > >and it would be a horrible tragedy for the Iraqi
> > >people for us to abandon them at this point.  We
> > did
> > >that once. We've had a huge military presence in
> > the
> > >Middle East and Europe for a long time and now
> > those
> > >assets will continue to move to Iraq. W is a
> > lameduck
> > >now and I've lost interest in the WMD issue, just
> > as I
> > >have with where Slick Willy went with his pecker.
> > No
> > >matter who the next President is (my current money
> > is
> > >on Hillary) we're in this for a good long while.
> > >
> > >Brad
> > >
> > >--- Wally Buck <tnrhodey at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ed,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for changing the sugject line but my post
> > was
> > > > not about "WMDs".
> > > > Perhaps you should have changed it to "Cuba is
> > not
> > > > Iraq".
> > > >
> > > > The funny thing is I have never questioned that
> > Iraq
> > > > had "WMDs". I have
> > > > questioned what level of threat Iraq was to our
> > > > National Security and our
> > > > motives for attacking when we did. This is very
> > hard
> > > > for many to understand.
> > > >
> > > > You are correct that the nukes were not in Cuba.
> > I
> > > > apologize for the error.
> > > > The USSR was building the missle pads and
> > facilities
> > > > to store and launch
> > > > Russian nukes in Cuba. The Soviets also had
> > bombers
> > > > based in Cuba. There was
> > > > a real threat to our National Security. Also
> > note
> > > > that this was settled with
> > > > out a war. This was my point. Not much to
> > compare
> > > > with Iraq.
> > > >
> > > > I do understand that WMDs involve gas,
> > biological,
> > > > and other means. I am
> > > > quite sure that stuff is missing as you say.
> > This
> > > > problem is not limited to
> > > > Iraq. Again this was not the point of my post.
> > The
> > > > situation in Cuba then
> > > > and Iraq now is quite different. To say
> > differently
> > > > is to ignore history.
> > > >
> > > > Wally
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "ed kroposki" <ekroposki at charter.net>
> > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > >To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'"
> > > > <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > > >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Wally's reply on WMD
> > > > >Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:18:21 -0400
> > > > >
> > > > >Wally,
> > > > >	WMD's not only include nuc's but other things,
> > > > such as gas, bio, et
> > > > >al.  The issue was preventing them getting
> > nuc's,
> > > > not that they already had
> > > > >them.  The same issue now next door in Iran.
> > > > Furthermore, nuclear is not
> > > > >limited to bomb explosives but also bomb
> > results,
> > > > ie, dirty explosives that
> > > > >contaminate.
> > > > >	There was a complaint issued by the U.N.
> > > > inspectors recently about
> > > > >missing nuclear stuff in Iraq that has gone
> > missing
> > > > since the start of the
> > > > >war.  If there was not problem, why are the
> > U.N.
> > > > inspectors complaining
> > > > >about missing nuclear stuff now?
> > > > >	I really do not want to be stirring Steve up,
> > but
> > > > your last comment
> > > > >was not accurate. Humpf.
> > > > >
> > > > >Ed K
> > > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > > > >[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> > > > Behalf Of Wally Buck
> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:02 AM
> > > > >To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Sappy Comment on
> > D-Day
> > > > >
> >
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