[Rhodes22-list] Red, Right, Returning

[William E. Wickman]

Often, as was the case in this area, the red and green markers are not
directly across from each other, but spaced far apart; sometimes as much as
a mile or more.  In more narrow channels with winding turns, there is
usually just one marker (red or green) that lets you know what side of the
turn to take.  In larger passages, there are also range markers that boats
can line up on to confirm that they are in the channel.

Bill W.




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I'm a little confused.  If you have markers on either side of you,
whether they be red/right - green/left or vice versa, aren't you in
the channel?  If you are outside the channel you will have both
markers on one side.  So if Bill W had markers on either side, how did
he run aground?

Hank

On 6/22/05, Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
> Have we ever talked about this?
>
> Most of us know the Red, Right, Returning Rule--but we can forget what
> it means, or not know that it is not universal.
>
> We learn the rules for our home waters, but forget how to apply them
> when we have a lot of other things going on.
>
> Channels that run parallel to the mainland usually have red on the
> mainland side, but if they fork off to sea, that can switch mid course.
> Also, how you apply the rules changes, depending on which side of (for
> instance) Florida you are sailing, with regard to where you keep the red
> marker when sailing south.  The rule for Intracoastal Channels is
> actually "Red, Right, Clockwise--New England to Texas".
>
> Watch the numbers on markers.  They increase as you approach the harbor,
> which is how you can know if you are "returning", and which rule is
> meant to apply.  Looking at charts before looking at markers can be
> quite helpful.
>
> Please note, also, that in many parts of the world the rule is "Green,
> Right, Returning".
>
> Bill Effros
>
>
> William E. Wickman wrote:
>
> >I didn't take any pictures traveling up Core Sound until that night once
we
> >got anchored.  I was in survival mode and picture taking was the last
thing
> >on my mind.  I didn't see any good anchorages along Core Sound past
> >Atlantic.  The charts looked like there might be something south, but my
> >steerage was really bad at the time and with the deteriorating weather
and
> >waves, I didn't want to venture out of the channel at all.  The cut
before
> >Cedar Island is pretty well marked, but I was surprised that the waves
were
> >almost as rough as Core Sound even though there was a land mass blocking
> >the long fetch that existed in the Sound.  I think the high winds
resulted
> >in any open water area being rough.  In calmer weather, navigation would
be
> >a walk in the park.  The bridge was a new high rise with plenty of
> >clearance.  The final cut over to West Bay was very narrow and VERY
shallow
> >at the edges.  You really have to stay in the channel through this
stretch,
> >even with a 20" draft.  I made the mental mistake of passing the green
> >markers to port and red to starboard through the entire channel; or at
> >least until I ran aground north of the bridge.  The channel markers
change
> >over once you pass under the bridge to where you should pass with the
green
> >to starboard.  I don't know why they did that , but the mistake cost me
> >some anxious moments of getting unstuck while the wind blasted the boat
> >further onto the shoal and the weather called for lightening and gusts
up
> >to 60 mph later that evening.  After getting unstuck, there was some
really
> >nice anchorage past the cut.  It is all wildlife refuge so there is
> >absolutely no development for miles around.  It is mostly marshland and
> >really quite beautiful.  We rode out the storm nicely there.
> >
> >Bill W.
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Bill:
> >
> >Fantastic, your sunset scene will now replace Peter's!
> >
> >Furthermore, maybe those shots will entice some other Rhodies to the
area.
> >
> >Are you hiding anymore?  Did you take any shots while motoring up the
> >channel by Atlantic and Davis?  Did you see any moorings in those areas.
> >How was the trip in the cut before Cedar Island?  Was there a draw
bridge
> >involved?  Or is that where they put that new high rise bridge?
> >
> >Whose boat has the line controlled tiller tamer?  I think that might be
in
> >order for taking pictures.  I do not have the autopilot.
> >
> >Ed K
> >Greenville, SC, USA
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