[Rhodes22-list] backstay tension/traveler bar

[P&M Beals]

When I get over to the boat again soon I will inspect again all around this
time, and take a digital photo...maybe, just maybe we have missed a hole on
the underside of the socket...

I am about 30 minutes (min.) from the boat and 50 min.(yuck) in evening rush
hour- as when we went over Tuesday. Not the best experience Tuesday...too
much traffic, not enough sailing, a slammed head, ...the best part was
plowing into waves under motor...the kids are happy as long as they get wet.

Will keep you posted.

Phyllis

> From: "ed kroposki" <ekroposki at charter.net>
> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:45:38 -0400
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] backstay tension/traveler bar
> 
> Phyllis:
> You used the term 'clevis pin' referring to Rummy's picture.  His
> picture shows a quick pin with a clevis ring as I defined earlier.  Have you
> actually looked at the underside of the socket?
> There is the possibility that there was never a pin holding the
> traveler into the socket, but that it was held in place by the tensioning of
> the back stay adjusters.  If the tension was tight, there should be no
> reason for separation.
> You can help solve the mystery with a photo from the top and a photo
> from the bottom.  Do you have a digital camera?
> 
> Ed K
> Greenville, SC, USA
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Mark Kaynor
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:52 PM
> To: 'The Rhodes 22 mail list'
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] backstay tension/traveler bar
> 
> Phyllis,
> 
> Raven (1988) has the same setup - single holes in both the traveler bar and
> the end caps. Try rotating the traveler until the holes line up - maybe
> you're trying to install the traveler incorrectly. The clam cleats for the
> traveler line go on top, if I remember correctly.
> 
> Mark 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of P&M Beals
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:19 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] backstay tension/traveler bar
> 
> Thanks ALL for your help...
> 
> I have inspected the sockets several times...last summer and again now,
> clearly there was never any hole there...my hunch is that Bob has hit it
> that my model a 1986, with probably original traveler bar- the stay sockets
> never had a hole-perhaps the screw theory might be it.  I would think the
> socket would have the hole, a short screw to go in and impress into the
> traveler bar...but it seems the other way around... I have the hole in the
> traveler bar, once put into the socket the hole on the traveler bar is
> covered up by the socket!
> Perhaps I have two different pieces from different years models, the stay
> sockets from one vintage and the traveler bar from another...
> There have been several owners of this boat over the years..
> 
> Just to assure all that the stays themselves look very solid and not worn.
> 
> I have put in a message to Stan directly to see if he has anything to add or
> anything I can buy from General Boats to help remedy this situation...
> 
> Rummy, that is a great photo and clearly I can see the place where the
> clevis pin should be.
> 
> Thanks all.
> 
> Phyllis
> 
>> From: "Robert  Quinn" <rjquinn at bellsouth.net>
>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 13:22:50 -0400
>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] backstay tension/traveler bar
>> 
>> Phyllis: Depending on the year of the boat, earlier models had "set
> screws"
>> to hold the travel bar in place.  Take a look at the holes and see if
>> you can detect screw groves.  If so, the set screws are missing and
>> need to be replaced.  I do not, off hand, know the size.
>> 
>> Later boats have holes both in the ends of the travel bar and the cap
>> ends that the traveler bar fit into, through which clevis pins fit to
>> hold the bar in place.  I like that set up better and would recommend
>> that you modify your set up to that system.
>> 
>> In ten years we never needed a Loos gage.  Tuned by eye (mast
>> straight) and shrouds tightened to give a firm (but not too tight) feel.
>> 
>> Bob on the "NoKaOi"
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "P&M Beals" <beals at rci.rutgers.edu>
>> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:04 AM
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] backstay tension/traveler bar
>> 
>> 
>> 
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