[Rhodes22-list] Generator

Rik Sandberg sanderico at earthlink.net
Thu Mar 31 23:17:54 EST 2005 

Yeah, that was me. :-)

Brad and I were trying to figure out the best way to hang the things off 
the transom. IIRC we decided to make a shelf out of the boarding ladder 
and set 'em on there. Never did use the Honda on the R 22.

Rik

Wally Buck wrote:

> Oh heck Bill I never lambasted anyone. ;-)
>
> I know Ric has a Honda but I am not sure if he ever used on his 
> Rhodes. They scare me a little on small boats like ours. A couple of 
> years ago three people were airlifted from our marina overhwlemed by 
> fumes on their big Carver cruiser. Supposedly the guy had 3 carbon 
> monoxide detecters. On a boat like Brads he may have plenty of room. I 
> would still suggest one of the jump starter packs. They are prety 
> cheap. If you put a generator on your boat be careful.
>
> Wally
>
>> From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Generator
>> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 10:21:56 -0500
>>
>> Sorry, Wally,
>>
>> Who was the other guy we were lambasting?
>>
>> Bill Effros
>>
>> Wally Buck wrote:
>>
>>> I haven't had the need for a generator so I really didn't comment 
>>> back then. For my use they are overkill but I could see how they 
>>> could be handy. What about one of those jump start battery packs? My 
>>> buddy just restored a boat from the 70s and his motor has a hand 
>>> crank. I thought that was pretty nice. You need to know how to use 
>>> crank so you don't get hurt. :-)
>>>
>>> Wally
>>>
>>>> From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
>>>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Generator
>>>> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 18:45:00 -0500
>>>>
>>>> Sorry about the lambasting.  I think I was on the lambasting side 
>>>> of the equation, although I think my role would better be 
>>>> characterized as ridiculing.
>>>>
>>>> Then I stumbled across one, and was really surprised about how 
>>>> quiet it was.
>>>>
>>>> Sadly, I had trashed all the email in this thread, thinking it 
>>>> would never apply to me.
>>>>
>>>> Now I'm thinking it might be a really useful thing to carry 
>>>> aboard.  Your situation is just one example.  But it also might be 
>>>> useful as a hybrid gas/electric propulsion system in a pinch.  We 
>>>> are already carrying the gas on board, so that's no big thing.  The 
>>>> small generators run on a thimbleful of gas.  The little Honda runs 
>>>> around $700.
>>>>
>>>> As I remember, you and Wally (?) had some interesting storage and 
>>>> mounting ideas.
>>>>
>>>> Again, sorry about the lambasting.
>>>>
>>>> Bill Effros
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> brad haslett wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, I started that discussion and pretty well got
>>>>> lambasted for it.  The last issue of Practical Sailor
>>>>> did a review on small generators and chose the Yamaha
>>>>> by a slight edge over my Honda.  It was my intent to
>>>>> take it with me on this trip but was one of a dozen
>>>>> items left behind.  A small generator on board would
>>>>> have definitely solved our problem of low batteries. I've thought 
>>>>> about leaving it on the boat but it saved
>>>>> our arse at home during hurricane Elvis last year, and
>>>>> kept us from losing all our food after going without
>>>>> power for three days.
>>>>>
>>>>> Brad
>>>>> --- Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Brad,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Weren't you part of the small portable generator
>>>>>> discussion?  The more I've thought about it, (and after hearing how
>>>>>> quietly they run) the more interested I've become in that idea.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you decide against it?  Wouldn't that have
>>>>>> solved your problem?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill Effros
>>>>>>
>>>>>> brad haslett wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anne,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's not be to harsh on the Bohemians.  I'm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> beginning
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to think of myself as a Bohemian sailor.  My oldest
>>>>>>> boy and his friends survived Spring Break on the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> boat,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the boat didn't fare as well.  They stayed up all
>>>>>>> night partying while I slept in the aft cabin.  The
>>>>>>> second morning we cranked the engine and motored
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> about 30 minutes until the wind picked up, and then
>>>>>>> raised the sails and a few toasts.  When the wind
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> died
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> down we stowed canvas and attempted to start the
>>>>>>> diesel ginny.  Click, Click, Click!  My battery
>>>>>>> charger quit a couple of months ago (it was a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> salvage
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> unit off the Mayflower), the replacement is on
>>>>>>> backorder from Sailnet, and apparently we didn't
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> motor
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> enough to recover from the gazillion hours of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> stereo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> use.  "Not to worry boys!  Its a sailboat!"  The
>>>>>>> current was drifting us pretty quickly to a rocky
>>>>>>> shore so I unstowed the main, manned the helm, and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> had
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Spencer man the halyard winch.  I'm not sure what
>>>>>>> happened but when the main was fully-up it had
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> about a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> two-foot tear in the top panel.  We sailed back to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> inlet to my marina with what wind (and sail)we had
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> then flagged down a pontoon boat for a tow.  Not
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> just
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> any pontoon boat, a 350 cubic inch V-8 powered
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> pontoon
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> boat (didn't know they made such a thing).  I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> pulled
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the main off the boat, threw it in a sailbag for
>>>>>>> repairs, and pressed on with the week.  I purchased
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cheap battery charger from Wal-Mart to finish the
>>>>>>> week's frivolities and sailed on the ginnies, both
>>>>>>> iron and fabric.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now here's the deal:  my old main was pretty tired
>>>>>>> anyway.  Last year I debated replacing it but sent
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to SailCare instead.  It came back still somewhat
>>>>>>> dingy and baggy, unlike the sails I sent to them
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> off
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the Rhodes-22.  You can only do so much with an old
>>>>>>> sail.  Replacement costs run from $900+ to $2000
>>>>>>> depending on the vendor and features.  I'm debating
>>>>>>> going to a Doyle StackPack.  They haven't given me
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> quote yet but I understand its quite expensive.  Do
>>>>>>> you or anyone on the list have any experience with
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> StackPack or know anyone who does?  If my boat were
>>>>>>> newer I might consider boom-furling but it doesn't
>>>>>>> make economic sense now.  Of course, I could just
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> sell
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the damn thing, get another Rhodes-22, and build a
>>>>>>> cabin on the lake which is what I wanted to do in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> first place!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brad Haslett
>>>>>>> s/v "CoraShen"  (Bohemian registry)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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