[Rhodes22-list] Re: Commitment to war

Tue May 24 09:20:15 EDT 2005

you too funny Stan... I dont' know how you make time for your rebuttals, but 
keep em coming... they really make my day!

I love your sardonic wit...

Saroj
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "stan" <stan at rhodes22.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Commitment to war

> Hi Steve,
>
> You must be referring to Clinton helping out in Serbia et al when the 
> Republicans were all for not doing anything about the ethnic cleansing and 
> also got pissed off when Clinton refused to do it without NATO and without 
> losing any American lives.  Pretty ugly record.
>
> You are right though, as a pinko bleeding heart liberal, I should be 
> sending GB profits to help George out with his unplanned mess but 
> unfortunately GBI also didn't plan ahead and turned out to be a non profit 
> organization.
>
> but love hearing from you and getting the broader perspective - even if I 
> am getting too old to change.
>
> stan
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> To: "stan" <stan at rhodes22.com>; "The Rhodes 22 mail list" 
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 10:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Commitment to war
>
>
>> Stan
>> Maybe some people just Recognize the need to help
>> people out when they are being murbered, raped,
>> sprayed with chemical weapons, etc.
>>
>> I support the war & any war that helps make people
>> free.
>>
>> Based on the comment you made about me below, since
>> you are for the terrorists, why don't YOU just go over
>> there and fight with the terrorists:-)  See Stan,
>> comments like this are stupid, they make no sense.
>> When you are the big dog on the plantet; this country
>> has to help people that can't help themselves.  I know
>> liberals only think about themselves and thier welfare
>> programs; BUT there are more important things to spend
>> money on than lazy Americans who won't work for a
>> living.  Now if the liberals really wanted to do
>> someting for thier fellow man; then they would give up
>> all earthly possessions to the government:-) Are you
>> going to donate your business Stan????????????  Do it
>> for the children!!!!!!!!!!! :-)
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> --- stan <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
>>
>>> thanks for the rare sharing, Rummy.
>>>
>>> Still waiting for Steve and friends to back up their
>>> bravado with enlisting
>>> or Bush to let his daughters sign up.  Maybe war is
>>> exciting and glamorous
>>> for some who stay home and hire others - but if it
>>> really, really, really is
>>> the right thing to do, as several on the List seem
>>> to think, then it should
>>> also be the right thing to declare war, have a fair
>>> draft for those asked to
>>> serve and rationing for the fully committed home
>>> front.  I for one would
>>> never allow my kids to be taken for any half hearted
>>> venture where the
>>> politically correct back up is tax cutting and
>>> magnetic symbols.
>>>
>>> stan, WW11
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
>>> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 4:15 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Commitment to war
>>>
>>>
>>> > Herb and all,
>>> >
>>> > Neither the body count or the number in country
>>> had anything to do  with
>>> > our
>>> > commitment or lack thereof in Vietnam. When a
>>> soldier is being fired  upon
>>> > and
>>> > has to radio for permission to return fire, that's
>>> a lack of  commitment.
>>> > Remember, we didn't have cell phones in those days
>>> and military  radio's,
>>> > as good
>>> > as they were, often couldn't contact anyone. I was
>>> with an  armored unit
>>> > in I
>>> > Corps (DMZ area) from 1970 to 1971 and saw a lot
>>> of strange  stuff, but
>>> > having to ask for permission to return fire is the
>>> one thing that  really
>>> > burned my
>>> > butt. Sometimes we just didn't ask for permission
>>> and pleaded  no radio
>>> > contact when questioned after the fact. It was
>>> easier and saved our  butts
>>> > on many
>>> > an occasion.
>>> > The one thing that concerns me when these
>>> discussions come up on the list
>>> > is
>>> > that I doubt that many people on either side of
>>> the issue know what
>>> > happens
>>> > to the human body when it is hit with a fifty
>>> caliber round or a grenade.
>>> > Or,
>>> > when a RPG hits a tank and burns through the
>>> armament and blows up inside
>>> > the
>>> > tank turning those bodies into chipped beef. War
>>> isn't pretty people. Part
>>> > of my  duties while in Vietnam were to identify
>>> bodies at the morgue when
>>> > they
>>> > were  brought in from the field. I still have
>>> nightmares about my
>>> > experiences,
>>> > and  don't talk about them very often. The
>>> decision to go to war has to be
>>> > taken very  seriously. People talking about body
>>> counts like your counting
>>> > cord
>>> > wood makes  me sick. Take a walk through a
>>> veterans hospital sometime and
>>> > meet
>>> > some of the  walking dead. Your thoughts on war
>>> will change, I guarantee
>>> > it.
>>> > War isn't good  for any living thing.
>>> > Time to step off the soap box and mix a drink.
>>> Coke has a new Diet Coke
>>> > made
>>> > with Splenda. No more Nutrasweet poisoning. Yeah!
>>> >
>>> > Rummy
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