[Rhodes22-list] Re: Commitment to war

[Steve]

Excellent old buddy old pal, Stan.  I knew the
children can count on you:-)  

As for Serb war; that is a prime example of why NOT to
let the UN run a war. But just leave it to Bush; he
gonna fix the UN:-)
Steve

--- stan <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:

> Hi Steve,
> 
> You must be referring to Clinton helping out in
> Serbia et al when the 
> Republicans were all for not doing anything about
> the ethnic cleansing and 
> also got pissed off when Clinton refused to do it
> without NATO and without 
> losing any American lives.  Pretty ugly record.
> 
> You are right though, as a pinko bleeding heart
> liberal, I should be sending 
> GB profits to help George out with his unplanned
> mess but unfortunately GBI 
> also didn't plan ahead and turned out to be a non
> profit organization.
> 
> but love hearing from you and getting the broader
> perspective - even if I am 
> getting too old to change.
> 
> stan
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve" <rhodes2282 at yahoo.com>
> To: "stan" <stan at rhodes22.com>; "The Rhodes 22 mail
> list" 
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 10:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Commitment to war
> 
> 
> > Stan
> > Maybe some people just Recognize the need to help
> > people out when they are being murbered, raped,
> > sprayed with chemical weapons, etc.
> >
> > I support the war & any war that helps make people
> > free.
> >
> > Based on the comment you made about me below,
> since
> > you are for the terrorists, why don't YOU just go
> over
> > there and fight with the terrorists:-)  See Stan,
> > comments like this are stupid, they make no sense.
> > When you are the big dog on the plantet; this
> country
> > has to help people that can't help themselves.  I
> know
> > liberals only think about themselves and thier
> welfare
> > programs; BUT there are more important things to
> spend
> > money on than lazy Americans who won't work for a
> > living.  Now if the liberals really wanted to do
> > someting for thier fellow man; then they would
> give up
> > all earthly possessions to the government:-) Are
> you
> > going to donate your business Stan????????????  Do
> it
> > for the children!!!!!!!!!!! :-)
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > --- stan <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
> >
> >> thanks for the rare sharing, Rummy.
> >>
> >> Still waiting for Steve and friends to back up
> their
> >> bravado with enlisting
> >> or Bush to let his daughters sign up.  Maybe war
> is
> >> exciting and glamorous
> >> for some who stay home and hire others - but if
> it
> >> really, really, really is
> >> the right thing to do, as several on the List
> seem
> >> to think, then it should
> >> also be the right thing to declare war, have a
> fair
> >> draft for those asked to
> >> serve and rationing for the fully committed home
> >> front.  I for one would
> >> never allow my kids to be taken for any half
> hearted
> >> venture where the
> >> politically correct back up is tax cutting and
> >> magnetic symbols.
> >>
> >> stan, WW11
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
> >> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 4:15 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Commitment to
> war
> >>
> >>
> >> > Herb and all,
> >> >
> >> > Neither the body count or the number in country
> >> had anything to do  with
> >> > our
> >> > commitment or lack thereof in Vietnam. When a
> >> soldier is being fired  upon
> >> > and
> >> > has to radio for permission to return fire,
> that's
> >> a lack of  commitment.
> >> > Remember, we didn't have cell phones in those
> days
> >> and military  radio's,
> >> > as good
> >> > as they were, often couldn't contact anyone. I
> was
> >> with an  armored unit
> >> > in I
> >> > Corps (DMZ area) from 1970 to 1971 and saw a
> lot
> >> of strange  stuff, but
> >> > having to ask for permission to return fire is
> the
> >> one thing that  really
> >> > burned my
> >> > butt. Sometimes we just didn't ask for
> permission
> >> and pleaded  no radio
> >> > contact when questioned after the fact. It was
> >> easier and saved our  butts
> >> > on many
> >> > an occasion.
> >> > The one thing that concerns me when these
> >> discussions come up on the list
> >> > is
> >> > that I doubt that many people on either side of
> >> the issue know what
> >> > happens
> >> > to the human body when it is hit with a fifty
> >> caliber round or a grenade.
> >> > Or,
> >> > when a RPG hits a tank and burns through the
> >> armament and blows up inside
> >> > the
> >> > tank turning those bodies into chipped beef.
> War
> >> isn't pretty people. Part
> >> > of my  duties while in Vietnam were to identify
> >> bodies at the morgue when
> >> > they
> >> > were  brought in from the field. I still have
> >> nightmares about my
> >> > experiences,
> >> > and  don't talk about them very often. The
> >> decision to go to war has to be
> >> > taken very  seriously. People talking about
> body
> >> counts like your counting
> >> > cord
> >> > wood makes  me sick. Take a walk through a
> >> veterans hospital sometime and
> >> > meet
> >> > some of the  walking dead. Your thoughts on war
> >> will change, I guarantee
> >> > it.
> >> > War isn't good  for any living thing.
> >> > Time to step off the soap box and mix a drink.
> >> Coke has a new Diet Coke
> >> > made
> >> > with Splenda. No more Nutrasweet poisoning.
> Yeah!
> >> >
> >> > Rummy
> >> >
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