[Rhodes22-list] Public Radio and TV

Wed May 25 11:26:11 EDT 2005

Sorry my bare mention of PBS started this round of diversion from my 
favorite subject: the Rhodes 22.  (just kidding.  I love it when you guys 
and gals let it all hang out on anything, anytime so I am not leaving the 
List, even if you vote me out.)

Ron, save all the ammunition going into the List's print files - take it 
from the old guy, the pendulum will turn again and you are going to have a 
handy pile of well taken stones to toss back to your right.

stan/EC

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "brad haslett" <flybrad at yahoo.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Public Radio and TV

> Saroj,
>
> The original purpose of PBS was to "serve an
> underserved market".  In this day and age with TV,
> cable, talk radio, satellite radio, websites and
> web-blogs, and oh yea, newspapers, do we have any
> "underserved markets"?  As you pointed out, every
> institution has its own bias and by your admission,
> PBS has one as well.  Not to be a hypocrite, PBS is
> currently on in the background as my daughter is
> watching a children's show.  I like PBS, listen to
> NPR, and contribute money. We've purchased enough
> Seseme Street tapes to fund that program for a while.
> My beef with the whole concept is using taxpayer
> money.  Let PBS duke it out in the marketplace.  Using
> public funding to provide services that are already
> well served by the marketplace is socialistic.
>
> Brad
>
>
> --- Saroj Gilbert <saroj at pathfind.net> wrote:
>
>> Rik, of course they are pushing their own agenda...
>> I wasn't clear about my
>> referential pronoun.. apologies... see my follow on
>> email...
>>
>> I just have never heard or picked up any indication
>> that they were promoting
>> communism and socialism; promoting control of
>> individuals, promoting the
>> control of the point of view of the masses, or
>> disdaining individual
>> freedom.
>>
>> Have you?
>>
>> Saroj
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Rik Sandberg" <sanderico at earthlink.net>
>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:18 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Public Radio and TV
>>
>>
>> > Saroj,
>> >
>> > Anybody that thinks public radio isn't pushing
>> their own agenda hasn't
>> > been listening to it much. I listen to NPR quite a
>> lot because it's true,
>> > you can get some better news coverage than on most
>> other radio stations.
>> > BUT, there are times when I have to turn it off
>> because there's a few
>> > whiny bedwetters that are just too much.
>> >
>> > I think, if NPR is such a great thing, the folks
>> that use it should
>> > contribute to keep it going. They all don't want
>> to hear all that nasty
>> > corperate advertising but apparently aren't bright
>> enough to figure out
>> > how all those other radio stations (and the people
>> who work there) make
>> > their living. I contribute to NPR even though I
>> don't necessarilly agree
>> > with much of their left leaning politics. If the
>> people that want NPR
>> > don't want it bad enough to throw a few bucks
>> their way in exchange for no
>> > advertising, I guess it can't be all that
>> important to them and it should
>> > fall by the wayside.
>> >
>> > Rik
>> >
>> > ed kroposki wrote:
>> >
>> >>Saroj:
>> >> Unfortunately your public radio and TV often
>> promotes a control the
>> >>masses point of view.  Communism and socialism are
>> political positions
>> >>used
>> >>to control individuals.  Big business is corporate
>> control of the
>> >>individual.  Public radio promotes the same thesis
>> of controlling the
>> >>individual.  Individual freedom whether political,
>> educational, business
>> >>is
>> >>distained by your public media. Public Radio or TV
>> promotes only the view
>> >>which represent their biased point of view.
>> >> Has radio reader ever read Natan Saransky's book
>> on Democracy?  Have
>> >>they promoted writers who espouse individual
>> freedoms?  They advocate just
>> >>another form of bigness...
>> >>
>> >>Ed Kroposki
>> >>Greenville, SC, USA
>> >>Addendum:  "As I would not be a slave, so I would
>> not be a master.  This
>> >>expresses my idea of democracy.  Whatever differ
>> from this, to the extent
>> >>of
>> >>difference, is no democracy."  A. Lincoln
>> >>
>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> >>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
>> Behalf Of Saroj Gilbert
>> >>Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 7:01 AM
>> >>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>> >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Commitment to war
>> >>
>> >>So we can have a source of news that isn't
>> massaged to meet the demands of
>> >>the corporate advertisers....
>> >>So we aren't bombarded by commercials...
>> >>So we can listen to the BBC...
>> >>So we can experience innovation that isn't
>> dependent on commercially
>> >>dictated norms...
>> >>
>> >>It is mostly subscriber-supported and grant
>> supported anyhow... but you'll
>> >>notice more and more that it receives a lot of
>> commercial support too so
>> >>it may not be able to maintain its independence.
>> >>
>> >>Saroj
>> >>
>> >>----- Original Message ----- 
>> >>From: "Philip Esteban" <3drecon at comcast.net>
>> >>To: "'stan'" <stan at rhodes22.com>; "'The Rhodes 22
>> mail list'"
>> >><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> >>Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 10:09 PM
>> >>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Re: Commitment to war
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>Why, with hundreds of channels available are we
>> funding public radio and
>> >>>television, but we are told we need our taxes
>> raised to meet other
>> >>>requirements?  The government needs to get out of
>> the radio and tv
>> >>>business.
>> >>>
>> >>>Philip
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
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