[Rhodes22-list] Tohatsu 2 Stroke

[Bill Effros]

Lou,

Tohatsu's big 2 strokes are now less polluting than anybody's 4 
strokes.  They also get better gas mileage.  Roger feels that this will 
not be possible to achieve with the smaller engines, and he may be 
right.  But, at one time he thought it would not be possible with the 
big engines, either.  Stay tuned to this channel.

Bill Effros

Lou Rosenberg wrote:

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>>  Bill,
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>  I greatly appreciate your feedback on this motor issue.
>  Will NOT go against the current in the East River and don't expect to 
> have deal with 25-30 kt winds either.
>   I do believe the 4 strokes are eventually going to replace the 2 
> strokes so I would opt for the 4.
>  sorry to hear about your 2 stroke.
>  Lou
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>> Lou,
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>> I see you got several responses to this one as well, but let me put 
>> in my two cents.
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>> First of all, I've attached a picture of a Tohatsu 8 hp in Venice. I 
>> took it for Rummy.
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>> The green argument for small four stroke outboard engines just won't 
>> wash.  Roger and I have had lengthy knockdown, drag-out discussions 
>> on this topic, so I know his opinion if you've been speaking with him.
>>
>> Here's the bottom line as far as I'm concerned -- our motors get so 
>> little use that any pollution difference is inconsequential.  The 
>> little four strokes don't start as easily as the little two strokes, 
>> so they dump much more unburned gasoline into the water.  To remedy 
>> the starting problems most owners put "additives" into their gas 
>> tanks.  These additives add pollution to the exhaust.
>>
>> 8 hp is all you need.  While Richard is right in noting that it 
>> doesn't matter how big an engine you have, you cannot overcome the 
>> displacement hull speed of 6.25 kn when the current is against you in 
>> Hell Gate, or in the East River, you sometimes need more power when 
>> the wind is on your nose.  The 8 hp motor will allow you to go in the 
>> direction you want to go in wind speeds up to 25-30 mph.
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>> The overriding point here is that you should never be going against 
>> the current in Hell Gate, or the East River.  It's really not safe. 
>> There's too much traffic coming toward you, and you can't safely turn 
>> around.  It's your job as Captain to know which way the current is 
>> going, and how strong it is.  The same is true of the wind. You've 
>> got no business being out in one of our boats in winds in excess of 
>> 25-30 mph.  If you do find yourself out under these conditions it's 
>> futile to try to power your way out of the problem. Heave-to, and 
>> drop an anchor if you are blown close to shore.
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>> An 8 hp is all you need.
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>> In one of my final anchoring experiments this summer, I managed to 
>> blow out the lower unit of my beloved Tohatsu two-stroke.  Much more 
>> to come about my anchoring adventures when I have a little more 
>> time.  Suffice it to say that I'm thinking about getting a four 
>> stroke Tohatsu to replace my 13 year old two-stroke.  I'm considering 
>> this solely because I am thinking about doing more motor cruising, 
>> and the four stroke is noticeably quieter than the 2-stroke.
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>> The two-stroke engine has fewer than 100 hours on it, and runs 
>> perfectly.  Only the gears in the lower unit will require attention.
>>
>> Bill Effros
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>> Lou Rosenberg wrote:
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>>>> Lou,
>>>> The 8hp Tohatsu, 2 stroke weighs only 50 pounds.
>>>>
>>>> Rummy
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>>> *******
>>> Rummy
>>>  I know I know Im one of  those greenies who wanna save the water 
>>> from more oil and all..
>>> and will a 8hp Tohatsu get me around Hells Gate where the Triboro 
>>> Bridge meets the East River, with the tide coming in and the current 
>>> going south?
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>>>  If  Im gonna spend the bucks for a new gasoline engine, its gonna 
>>> be ONCE.
>>>  Im only gonna lift the beast onto the mount ONCE also.
>>>  its gonna get locked to the boat with hardened steel cables and 
>>> and/ or a good motor lock or both cause where I dock, people been 
>>> known to swim with da fishes.
>>>  Lou
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