[Rhodes22-list] Reply to Dan Snyder- 175 Genoa etc.

[daniel snyder]

Thanks Bill, Jim and Rummy.  Guess I'll stick with the 175.  That is what is 
included in the "boat show" package anyhow.  Can't wait till May to try her 
out.  Dan
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
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Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Reply to Dan Snyder- 175 Genoa etc.


> I'm with Jim and Rummy on this one.
>
> I think the 175 is a great sail no matter how hard or soft the wind is 
> blowing.  You can crank it out or crank it in in seconds.  It is a great 
> aid to tacking--it's a rare summer that I miss more than 1 tack all 
> summer.
>
> I think people who have trouble in light air forget how easy it is to pull 
> it in on one side and pull it out on the other.  It shouldn't ever get 
> hung up.
>
> Like many things on the Rhodes 22, it doesn't have a "classic" sailboat 
> look, but it works better than boats that do.
>
> There was a PHRF question about the Rhodes --
>
> As I understand it, a lot of the racers favor smaller sails because they 
> get PHRF penalties for larger Genoas.  Meaning that a Rhodes with a 258 
> rating with a 150 would have a 243 rating (or something like that) with a 
> 175.  You've got to think there's a reason for penalizing the larger 
> sails -- probably because they make the boats go faster.  Maybe not the 
> full 15 seconds faster, but faster than a smaller sail.
> So few of us race that the boat gets a high PHRF number.  It's a great 
> number to race against, and most of the people who are serious about 
> racing win a lot of races before the PHRF committee lowers their ratings 
> to reflect the true speed of the boat in capable hands.  As I remember, 
> Roger got his PHRF down into the 230s with a 150 sail.  If he had raced 
> with a 175 that number would have gone down into the 200 teens.
>
> Bill Effros
>
> Jim White wrote:
>
>>Rummy:
>>  The 175 is a great sail here on the South Texas coast too, where much of 
>> the time the wind comes up in the middle of the day to over 15 knots. I 
>> just put part of it back on the stay and keep going....sometimes early in 
>> the morning it's not even quite enough, and of course, running downwind 
>> poled out, wing on wing is a unbeatable. I wouldn't even consider any 
>> other headsail size on Menagerie....
>>  jw
>>
>>R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
>>  Dan,
>>If you are going to be sailing on an inland lake, I would recommend the 
>>175. Lake sailors don't have the benefit of constant winds like ocean 
>>sailors often do. The ability to furl and move the lines inside the 
>>shrouds makes it a good choice. I don't have the problem with the sail 
>>collapsing and I don't experience pointing or some of the other problems 
>>people associate with the 175. It's all about experience, knowing the boat 
>>and trying different things to find good sail shape for the wind 
>>conditions. Balance is also important to sail shape. Often, my crew 
>>members get annoyed with my constantly moving their weight around to keep 
>>good balance, but that's why they are there in the first place. Oh, and 
>>they also come in handy for keeping the drinks filled.
>>
>>Rummy
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>>Jim White
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