[Rhodes22-list] Blame the Now: not Sailing

[Hank]

Ron,
 Actually, Brad Haslett posted the article by Ben Stein, not me.
 Hank

 On 9/9/05, Ronald Lipton <rlipton at earthlink.net> wrote: 
> 
> One of the things that makes this kind of discussion difficult
> on an e-mail list, even one full of knowledgeable people, is
> the frustration with not having enough time or writing skills
> to adequately address the issues and questions. I usually don't
> have time to say much, and I write slowly, so some of us at a disadvantage
> at the start. It is frustrating to have to ignore arguments I think
> are wrong or facts that I think are incorrect, but if I did that
> (as Bill and Ed seem to do without fail) I would never have time
> to sail - which is the point of this list.
> 
> I was intially not in favor of too much political discussion on
> the list, partially for the above reason, partially because I get
> mad enough just reading the news (I no longer watch TV news).
> However it has been useful as an unbiased sample of people, many
> of whom have opinions very different then the ones I usually hear.
> (I am a liberal, as are most of my coworkers). I do get annoyed by
> people who post opinion pieces - like the one Hank posted by
> Ben Stein. Most of his statements were just Ben's baised opinions -
> I was especially annoyed by his reference to global warming, an example of
> the reluctance to recognize science which is really quite strong, based
> on a political and economic agenda
> is an example of the politics uber-alles bent of this administration.
> But why should I argue with Ben - it would take a lof of work from
> me and it was no work for Hank to post the list. I could post the
> latest editorial by Maureen Dawd - but that is Vietnam style escalation -
> and who knows where that may end.
> 
> Ron
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim White" <lemenagerie22 at yahoo.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 3:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Blame the Now: Sailing
> 
> 
> > Thanks Bill
> >
> > It really did pass me by...maybe it has something to do with my
> > dyslexia...or maybe impatience on my part, but it was an overload.
> >
> > It took me eight years to do college and grad school, and sometime I 
> still
> > feel like a gypsy in the palace. Hours and hours of Government, American
> > History, Civics etc. as an undergrad, and I came away with a sense that 
> we
> > (the individual) are resposible for the caretaking of this country. I 
> was
> > under the impression that the government (especially the federal
> > government) is a necessary evil...At least that's what I thought the
> > framers and founders thought. I always thought the the local governments
> > were primarily responsible to their governed, and beyond that each
> > individual was responsible to one another (the higher law thing...). I
> > guess I need to relearn things.
> >
> > The La. tragedy seems to me to be just that, a tragedy, regardless of
> > which levels of government screwed things up. It's time to pull together
> > for the common good.
> >
> > Them gov'ment kind are all a bunch of city slickers anyhow.... I figure 
> we
> > can sort the mess out later, but right now we need to take care of the
> > problem.
> >
> > Anyway, I have little time to try and solve political problems...I'm too
> > busy trying to keep an eye on the workings of this little microcosm of
> > ocean down here, and besides I'm sort of kinesthetic to begin with...I
> > have to get my hands on the problem, that's why for me it was better to
> > send so money (which I have little of), clothes and food for the effort 
> in
> > NOLA. That's my obligation and duty as an American citizen. If I didn't
> > have school age kids, like Herb I would've gone there to try and help 
> out
> > too.
> >
> > Let better minds solve the big problems on this list...
> >
> > Cheers
> > jw
> >
> >
> > Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
> > Jim, forgot to label that a joke, we all did get it 8 times. At least,
> > I did.
> >
> > Bill Effros
> >
> >
> >
> > Jim White
> > Le Menagerie
> > www.lemenagerie.blogspot.com <http://www.lemenagerie.blogspot.com>
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