[Rhodes22-list] 2-cycles still made?

Ben Schultz benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com
Fri Aug 11 10:41:48 EDT 2006


A gas powered trolling motor?  There must be some pretty brave fish 
somewhere or other.

Ben



Michael Meltzer wrote:
> Yamaha does have a 8 hp HT, it a very nice motor, ment as a trolling motor
> for a boat with the twin 300hp's, they ment it for the 9.9th replacement,
> some great fearers, but is it also heavy, has an built is riser that added
> weight and cost and you need to buy a "remote kit" that added again to cost
>
>
> -mjm
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
>> bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of William E. Wickman
>> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 11:51 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 2-cycles still made?
>>
>> Elle,
>> You are correct.  Beginning in 2006 you cannot buy a new 2 cycle.  You may
>> be able to find a new 2005 model somewhere, but most of them have already
>> been snatched up.
>>
>> If you want to buy new, save yourself the hassle of trying to find a 2
>> cycle and just get a 4.  The advantage of a 4 cycle is that it is quieter
>> running, much more fuel efficient, you don't have to mess with oil ratios,
>> and they are much better for the environment.  Their only disadvantage in
>> my opinion is they are heavier than equivalent 2 cycles (which should'nt
>> be a problem if you don't transport it often).
>>
>> Regarding reliability, both 2 and 4 cycles are reliable, or unreliable,
>> depending on how you take care of them.  2 cycles don't like to be run at
>> idle which is what we sailors mostly do with them.  4 cycles can run all
>> day at idle and just sip gas.
>>
>> Regarding high thrust, the prop is not what determines thrust.  It is the
>> gear ratio of the engine.  High thrust engines run at a lower rpm at a
>> given throttle setting and can thus deliver higher torque to the prop
>> shaft enabling a large high pitched prop to be used.  If you try to put a
>> high pitch prop on a regular outboard, it will be mismatched putting undue
>> strain on the engine and will cost you performance and shorter engine
>> life.  High thrust engines are designed for slower moving displacement
>> hulls like houseboats and sailboats.
>>
>> I am not aware of any low hp 2 cycle high thrust outboards out there.  The
>> only true high thrust that I have heard of are the Yamaha 9.9hp high
>> thrust outboards that Stan uses.  As you might have guessed, I own the
>> Yamaha 9.9hp and am extremely happy with it.  I have used it in some
>> pretty extreme conditions and it has always performed well.  The high
>> thrust also allows me to run at idle and attain near hull speed durning
>> normal wind/water conditions for hours on end with very little fuel
>> consumption.
>>
>> All that said many Rhodes owners have conventional outboards and do just
>> fine with them.  Remember, these are first and foremost sailing vessels,
>> but it sure is nice to have a reliable, powerful enough outboard when you
>> need one.
>>
>> Bill Wickman
>>
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>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces
>> Sent: 08/10/2006 11:13 PM
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 2-cycles still made?
>>
>> Are the 2-cycles still being manufactured?? I thought
>> they were gone & 4-strokes replaced them...
>>
>> Going to hit the phones tomorrow...I'll report back!
>>
>> thanks for the help.
>>
>> elle
>>
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