[Rhodes22-list] BR Frame

[David Bradley]

I don't really have any experience with it.  Stan seemed to think more
strength was better for the roof frame.

Dave

On 2/3/06, Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
> Dave,
>
> What are the reasons for not using PVC?
>
> Easy to clean.  Easy to mark (Slim's markings showing where each piece
> goes are very useful--I mark all my stuff, too.) Light weight.  Easy to
> fabricate.
>
> Not as cool as stainless steel?
>
> It seems to me it would be easy enough to put threads on the ends of the
> PVC and screw them together.
>
> I haven't done a whole lot of tenting, but I've done some PTEing, and as
> solid as that rig is, I take down my Pop Top and remove the fabric when
> the wind starts blowing.  Same is true of my mast and sails.  The BR
> would be the first thing to come down, it has nearly as much surface
> area as my main sail.
>
> I think one of the important things about sailing is knowing when to
> reef, and reefing before you get in trouble.  I also think we would all
> know when to take down the BR, irrespective of frame.
>
> Bill Effros
>
> Slim wrote:
>
> >Dave, et al,
> >
> >First of all, the PTE has us all kind of spoiled.  You just flop it over the
> >pop top and snap it down--no poles, no wires, nothing.  Too cool!
> >
> >I've done a lot of tenting ever since I was a boy scout and I think I've
> >used every kind of tent pole there is and I've spent many nights in some
> >really bad weather in tents, including a tornado in northern MN.  Flexible
> >frames seem to be the best overall for use, cost and storage.  Rigidity is
> >the enemy when the wind picks up.  So yeah, I'm still in favor of the 1" PVC
> >for this project.  What's not to like?  It'll hold up fine up to about 20 or
> >more.  Above that, you should be taking it down no matter what kind of frame
> >you have.  Difficult to uncouple?  No more than anything else and easier
> >than most.  You spit on your hands and twist and pull.
> >
> >Slim
> >
> >On 2/2/06 7:35 PM, "David Bradley" <dwbrad at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Slim, do you find that the PVC is difficult to uncouple?  If you were
> >>starting new and had a choice of PVC, stainless, or aluminum, would
> >>you choose PVC again?
> >>
> >>Dave Bradley
> >>
> >>On 2/2/06, Slim <salm at mn.rr.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Art,
> >>>
> >>>What do you have against PVC?  It's sturdy, flexible, cheap, easily
> >>>assembled and stowed and easy to replace.  I stash the frame on the shelf in
> >>>the V-berth.  Where can you stow a hard SS frame and how much does it cost?
> >>>
> >>>Slim
> >>>
> >>>On 2/1/06 9:46 PM, "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Ed,
> >>>>
> >>>>Try it, you might like it.  I would not attempt it with PVC pipe for the
> >>>>frame, but I have with SS tubing. The 175 alone (or motoring without sail)
> >>>>can
> >>>>provide a pleasant outing.  The alternative of having to disassemble an
> >>>>entire
> >>>>room seems like alot of work if not mandatory and not desired.  Speaking of
> >>>>adapting the Rhodes in this way, I frankly cannot remember this much
> >>>>enthusiasm generated for an extra portable room on any sailboat.
> >>>>
> >>>>The point of sailing without removing the top frame is for cover from the
> >>>>sun,
> >>>>not to keep a 'room' in place underway.
> >>>>
> >>>>BTW, ask Rummy if the Rhodes could suffice as  a party barge, or a nice
> >>>>week-long excursion boat.
> >>>>
> >>>>Art
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>From: "Tootle (sent by Nabble.com)" <lists at nabble.com>
> >>>>>Sent: Feb 1, 2006 7:53 PM
> >>>>>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >>>>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Slim's Tool
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Slim,
> >>>>>     So you used Stan's tool for grommets?  Then you are the one who made
> >>>>>off
> >>>>>with hole cutter?  He was wondering where it went:-)
> >>>>>      If you go up north this time of the year, you will see a whole lot of
> >>>>>boats that look like yours with the boom room.  They call it shrink wrap.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Art,
> >>>>>     The Rhodes 22 is not a party barge, people put up a boom room to
> >>>>>sleep,
> >>>>>or stay out of the weather while partying privately.  I doubt any but you
> >>>>>are
> >>>>>concerned about sailing with a boom in place.  If you need that much room
> >>>>>while you are sailing you need a 40 foot boat:-)  Now I concede that some
> >>>>>may
> >>>>>try after partying, but we both know they should stay put.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>MJM,
> >>>>>     We are waiting on a report?  I bet the only stumbling block is that
> >>>>>they
> >>>>>have a non smoking environment?  Michael, how about adding video clips to
> >>>>>the
> >>>>>permitted attachments?  See what I mean under separate cover.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Ed K
> >>>>>Greenville, SC, USA
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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