[Rhodes22-list] BR Intellectual Property

[Arthur H. Czerwonky]

Wally,

The nice thing about a simple design is the ability to customize the size and shape.  It's no problem.

So nice to keep it simple and easy to use, put together, and store.  We go out to sail and enjoy the water, not spend hours in maintenance, especially my wife's attitude.

Art

-----Original Message-----
>From: TN Rhodey <tnrhodey at hotmail.com>
>Sent: Feb 4, 2006 3:04 PM
>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] BR Intellectual Property
>
>Todd,
>
>I think this is the first time i disagree with one of your posts. :-)  I am 
>sure Roger's boom room is quite stout but I don't want anything that is 
>integrated with PTE or bimini. One reason is i have neither but more 
>imprtantly I just want to be able to shelter the cokcpit from rain, dew, and 
>sun. I want something that is easy to rig, take down, and store.  Not to 
>mention Roger's design looks hideous.
>
>Wally
>
>
>>From: "Todd Tavares" <sprocket80 at mail.com>
>>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] BR Intellectual Property
>>Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 16:35:34 -0500
>>
>>Bill,
>>
>>    Which Todd are you talking to?  We have at least a couple on the list 
>>now.  I guess I'll have to start signing my last initial from now on.
>>
>>    As far as the boom room design and any intellectual property rights 
>>go...I personally am not involved in this discussion.  I guess Brad's 
>>comment 'money talks and BS walks' should sum it all up nicely.
>>
>>   It is funny though, how all of this talk of a boom room syndicate 
>>quickly dissolved...especially when you mentioned giving the design to 
>>Stan.  If boat owners want to give Stan input and work with him on this, 
>>then that is fantastic. If you want to act as an agent on spec for GBI,  
>>(maybe Robert S. has a cool Latin phrase for this ;-D)then more power to 
>>you.  The question on most mind's here is probably not what portion of the 
>>profit goes to Stan, but how much or what is Bill going to get out of this 
>>whole thing?
>>
>>   I could tell you what I REALLY think but ...it would cost ya.  I'd offer 
>>my opinion for the measly sum of a signed copy of your book.  Not the one 
>>you are thinking about.  The one about how to sell my house in five days.
>>
>>
>>Todd T.
>>
>>Addendum; (Latin for PS?)  Seriously though, I think it makes more sense to 
>>use Roger's design as a start.  Why have a bimini AND a boom room?  In 
>>Rogers design, the framework of the bimini does double duty.  It is just 
>>more efficient use of space, materials and weight. IMHO
>>
>>
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
>> > To: "R22 List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] BR Intellectual Property
>> > Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 09:56:46 -0500
>> >
>> >
>> > Todd,
>> >
>> > Please help me here.
>> >
>> > As usual, Stan has taken a completely different approach to
>> > Dodger/Awning construction from the traditional marine source approach.
>> > Most of us have enough faith in Stan to accept his experience at face 
>>value.
>> >
>> > We are planning to take all of his experience and build from it a
>> > low-cost highly useful addition to our boats.  Stan has graciously told
>> > us which way to go, from the many possibilities.  For this he surely is
>> > entitled to something.  What?  How do we give it to him?  Do we each pay
>> > him a royalty if we build BRs based on his concepts?
>> >
>> > It looks like if each of us gets some PVC or another material if
>> > preferred, we can each build a frame based on Stan's design.  We can
>> > then each make panels that hang from that frame.  The panels can be made
>> > of blue plastic, or anything else once we publish frame sizes and 
>>shapes.
>> >
>> > Which means each of us could have a BR this summer if we want one.  We
>> > can pool our knowledge and come up with common specs for everything.  We
>> > can improve panels and frames as we can afford to update.
>> >
>> > Stan would wind up owning the patterns, and specs for the room.  Over
>> > time he could fabricate and sell things for less than any individual
>> > could make the first one.  People could start with plans for a cheap
>> > room, and graduate to more and more screened and clear panels as desired
>> > over time.  If we are using the room, I would guess we would spring for
>> > more expensive and versatile panels.
>> >
>> > What is a fair royalty for using Stan's concept?  How do we pay him?
>> > This will, of course, be honor system.
>> >
>> > Bill Effros
>> >
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