[Rhodes22-list] Boom Room Review
Bill Effros
bill at effros.com
Sun Feb 12 13:34:27 EST 2006
Michael,
Since we've got nothing better to do, have you been keeping up with the
Boom Room discussion?
Bill Effros
Michel Meltzer wrote:
>I guess I live in the land of deckahance, the plow guy is due :-)
>
>-mjm
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
>>bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
>>Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 12:11 PM
>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GPS, ---Ed
>>
>>Michael,
>>
>>It's time for my winter toy! Time to bring out the little backhoe to
>>shovel the driveway. Since my driveway is over 100 yards long, it
>>really makes a difference. This amount of snow will take a couple of
>>hours to shovel with the front end loader.
>>
>>As soon as the snow stops, I'll hop on my pony...actually it's a
>>
>>
>Kubota.
>
>
>>Bill Effros
>>
>>Michel Meltzer wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Did they put up the "home land defenses" posters btw you, about the
>>>executions zones? Or was that executions zones :-) I thing we are
>>>
>>>
>going
>
>
>>>to psycho ED out about sailing around here. my question for the day,
>>>what about sailing a rhodes22 in a foot of snow. BTW I see you can
>>>
>>>
>post
>
>
>>>so Greenwich did not have it power screwed yet :-)
>>>
>>>-mjm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
>>>>bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
>>>>Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 10:53 AM
>>>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GPS, ---Ed
>>>>
>>>>How about sonar? To spot the subs? Could rig a fishfinder...
>>>>
>>>>Bill Effros
>>>>
>>>>Michel Meltzer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Radar is overkill, but mostly due to price, size and power draw.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>-mjm
>
>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
>>>>>>bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Bodnar
>>>>>>Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 10:15 AM
>>>>>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GPS, ---Ed
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ed,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I think you are missing a point ... although I'm going to defend
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>two.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>When I buy a new car, I option all the latest safety equipment,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>but
>
>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>I'm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>not planning for an accident. I'm spending the bucks on all that
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>extra
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>equipment, so that if there is an accident, and if some one should
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>get
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>hurt, I will know that we had the best chance of survival
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>available
>
>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>at
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Now I've been lucky, I've been out in fog only once, and we
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>decided
>
>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>that
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>we would go out anyway to experience it. It was an excellent
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>learning
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>experience, not necessarily a good day sailing. We took
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>precautions,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>by
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>sailing in relatively shallow water, (an R22 advantage) to stay
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>out
>
>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>of
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>way of faster more powerful boats. As I said, a learning
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>experience;
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>which, I'm sure, will make us better prepared to handle fog when
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>we
>
>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>are
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>out on that clear sunny day in the middle of lake Erie and the fog
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>just
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>closes in. At that time I will want the best equipment available,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>and
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>I
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>will want a GPS to confirm my position and help me make decisions
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>should I
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>be near the shipping channels. If radar was practical on an R22,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>I'd
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>have
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>it. However, I've just read about a radio transponder system that
>>>>>>commercial vessels are required to use, and monitoring it with a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>MAPPING
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>GPS attached, sounds like a more reliable method of identifying
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>big
>
>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>ships
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>in the area. As I said the best equipment available.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The second point: Boys and their toys. Some of us take pride in
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>our
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>skills and accomplishments, in a minimalist fashion, and others of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>us
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>get
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>great enjoyment in pressing buttons and watching little teeny
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>boxes
>
>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>do
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>magic that wasn't even possible with a room full of computers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>using
>
>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Kilo-
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>watts of power, a few short years ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dan Bodnar
>>>>>>S/V QOL (Quality of Life)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>From: Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net>
>>>>>>>Sent: Feb 12, 2006 9:41 AM
>>>>>>>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>>>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GPS, Wally, Mary Lou, big spenders
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The GPS is great, but how much GPS is necessary? Is external
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>antenna
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> necessary on a Rhodes 22? A good hand held is all that is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>necessary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The big bucks some want to spend for color wide screen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>chartplotter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>is
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>utter waste.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wally do you have a mount with external antenna for your
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>kayak?
>
>
>>>>>>> For night sailing on Lake Hartwell we do not have one
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>lighthouse,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>especially
>>>>>>> not Michael's ten lighthouses. Shipping channels? Yea we
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>have
>
>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>main
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> channel but as Rummy will tell you about an affair with the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>Carver,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>they
>>>>>>> are the ones on autopilot, not the small boats.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> These newbies maybe should learn their boat before they sail
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>in
>
>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>fog,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>at
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>night
>>>>>>> or navigate at night or potentially foul weather far from
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>home
>
>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>port.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>By that time
>>>>>>> the gear will be outdated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As for that Maine sailor who navigates around icebergs to his
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>island
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>retreat, his fellow
>>>>>>> Eskimos did it in kayaks without GPS. Maybe he should
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>consider
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Eskimo day camp?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Those worried about getting struck need one of those radar
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>units
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>with
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>hazard
>>>>>>> approching warning attached to good klaxon. You know like on
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>a
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>submarine, dive, dive!
>>>>>>> Listen here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>http://www.classic-car-accessories.co.uk/acatalog/soundtklaxonred.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>l
>
>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (Those units are available, but might have a large battery
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>draw,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>where
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>is that spread sheet.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ed K
>>>>>>>Greenville, SC, USA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>View this message in context:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes-22-in-fog-low-
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>visibility-Re%3A-GPS-reply-t1104918.html#a2896741
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com.
>>>>>>>
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