[Rhodes22-list] GPS, ---Ed

Michel Meltzer mjm at michaelmeltzer.com
Sun Feb 12 13:10:46 EST 2006


I guess I live in the land of deckahance, the plow guy is due :-)

-mjm 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
> bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 12:11 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GPS, ---Ed
> 
> Michael,
> 
> It's time for my winter toy!  Time to bring out the little backhoe to
> shovel the driveway.  Since my driveway is over 100 yards long, it
> really makes a difference.  This amount of snow will take a couple of
> hours to shovel with the front end loader.
> 
> As soon as the snow stops, I'll hop on my pony...actually it's a
Kubota.
> 
> Bill Effros
> 
> Michel Meltzer wrote:
> 
> >Did they put up the "home land defenses" posters btw you, about the
> >executions zones? Or was that executions zones :-) I thing we are
going
> >to psycho ED out about sailing around here.  my question for the day,
> >what about sailing a rhodes22 in a foot of snow. BTW I see you can
post
> >so Greenwich did not have it power screwed yet :-)
> >
> >-mjm
> >
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
> >>bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bill Effros
> >>Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 10:53 AM
> >>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GPS, ---Ed
> >>
> >>How about sonar?  To spot the subs?  Could rig a fishfinder...
> >>
> >>Bill Effros
> >>
> >>Michel Meltzer wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Radar is overkill, but mostly due to price, size and power draw.
-mjm
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
> >>>>bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Bodnar
> >>>>Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 10:15 AM
> >>>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> >>>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GPS, ---Ed
> >>>>
> >>>>Ed,
> >>>>
> >>>>I think you are missing a point ... although I'm going to defend
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >two.
> >
> >
> >>>>When I buy a new car, I option all the latest safety equipment,
but
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>I'm
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>not planning for an accident.  I'm spending the bucks on all that
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>extra
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>equipment, so that if there is an accident, and if some one should
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >get
> >
> >
> >>>>hurt, I will know that we had the best chance of survival
available
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >at
> >
> >
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>time.
> >>>>
> >>>>Now I've been lucky, I've been out in fog only once, and we
decided
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>that
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>we would go out anyway to experience it.   It was an excellent
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>learning
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>experience, not necessarily a good day sailing.  We took
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >precautions,
> >
> >
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>by
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>sailing in relatively shallow water, (an R22 advantage) to stay
out
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >of
> >
> >
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>the
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>way of faster more powerful boats.  As I said, a learning
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >experience;
> >
> >
> >>>>which, I'm sure, will make us better prepared to handle fog when
we
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>are
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>out on that clear sunny day in the middle of lake Erie and the fog
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>just
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>closes in.  At that time I will want the best equipment available,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >and
> >
> >
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>I
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>will want a GPS to confirm my position and help me make decisions
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>should I
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>be near the shipping channels.  If radar was practical on an R22,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >I'd
> >
> >
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>have
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>it.  However, I've just read about a radio transponder system that
> >>>>commercial vessels are required to use, and monitoring it with a
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>MAPPING
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>GPS attached, sounds like a more reliable method of identifying
big
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>ships
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>in the area.  As I said the best equipment available.
> >>>>
> >>>>The second point:  Boys and their toys.  Some of us take pride in
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >our
> >
> >
> >>>>skills and accomplishments, in a minimalist fashion, and others of
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >us
> >
> >
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>get
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>great enjoyment in pressing buttons and watching little teeny
boxes
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >do
> >
> >
> >>>>magic  that wasn't even possible with a room full of computers
using
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>Kilo-
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>watts of power, a few short years ago.
> >>>>
> >>>>Dan Bodnar
> >>>>S/V QOL (Quality of Life)
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>From: Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net>
> >>>>>Sent: Feb 12, 2006 9:41 AM
> >>>>>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >>>>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GPS, Wally, Mary Lou, big spenders
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   The GPS is great, but how much GPS is necessary?  Is external
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>antenna
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>   necessary on a Rhodes 22?  A good hand held is all that is
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>necessary.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>   The big bucks some want to spend for color wide screen
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>chartplotter
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>is
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>utter waste.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   Wally do you have a mount with external antenna for your
kayak?
> >>>>>   For night sailing on Lake Hartwell we do not have one
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>lighthouse,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>especially
> >>>>>   not Michael's ten lighthouses.  Shipping channels?  Yea we
have
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>a
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>main
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>   channel but as Rummy will tell you about an affair with the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>Carver,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>they
> >>>>>   are the ones on autopilot, not the small boats.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   These newbies maybe should learn their boat before they sail
in
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>fog,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>at
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>night
> >>>>>    or navigate at night or potentially foul weather far from
home
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>port.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>By that time
> >>>>>    the gear will be outdated.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    As for that Maine sailor who navigates around icebergs to his
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>island
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>retreat, his fellow
> >>>>>    Eskimos did it in kayaks without GPS.   Maybe he should
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>consider
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>Eskimo day camp?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    Those worried about getting struck need one of those radar
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>units
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>with
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>hazard
> >>>>>    approching warning attached to good klaxon.  You know like on
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >a
> >
> >
> >>>>>submarine, dive, dive!
> >>>>>    Listen here:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
>
>>>http://www.classic-car-accessories.co.uk/acatalog/soundtklaxonred.htm
l
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>    (Those units are available, but might have a large battery
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>draw,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>where
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>is that spread sheet.)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Ed K
> >>>>>Greenville, SC, USA
> >>>>>
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>View this message in context:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes-22-in-fog-low-
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>visibility-Re%3A-GPS-reply-t1104918.html#a2896741
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com.
> >>>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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