[Rhodes22-list] GPS, ---Ed

[Slim]

Bill,

That's one big fish!

Slim

On 2/12/06 9:52 AM, "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com> wrote:

> How about sonar?  To spot the subs?  Could rig a fishfinder...
> 
> Bill Effros
> 
> Michel Meltzer wrote:
> 
>> Radar is overkill, but mostly due to price, size and power draw. -mjm
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
>>> bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Bodnar
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 10:15 AM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GPS, ---Ed
>>> 
>>> Ed,
>>> 
>>> I think you are missing a point ... although I'm going to defend two.
>>> 
>>> When I buy a new car, I option all the latest safety equipment, but
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>>> 
>> I'm
>>  
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>>> not planning for an accident.  I'm spending the bucks on all that
>>>    
>>> 
>> extra
>>  
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>>> equipment, so that if there is an accident, and if some one should get
>>> hurt, I will know that we had the best chance of survival available at
>>>    
>>> 
>> the
>>  
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>>> time.
>>> 
>>> Now I've been lucky, I've been out in fog only once, and we decided
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>>> 
>> that
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>>> we would go out anyway to experience it.   It was an excellent
>>>    
>>> 
>> learning
>>  
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>>> experience, not necessarily a good day sailing.  We took precautions,
>>>    
>>> 
>> by
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>>> sailing in relatively shallow water, (an R22 advantage) to stay out of
>>>    
>>> 
>> the
>>  
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>>> way of faster more powerful boats.  As I said, a learning experience;
>>> which, I'm sure, will make us better prepared to handle fog when we
>>>    
>>> 
>> are
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>>> out on that clear sunny day in the middle of lake Erie and the fog
>>>    
>>> 
>> just
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>>> closes in.  At that time I will want the best equipment available, and
>>>    
>>> 
>> I
>>  
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>>> will want a GPS to confirm my position and help me make decisions
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>>> 
>> should I
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>>> be near the shipping channels.  If radar was practical on an R22, I'd
>>>    
>>> 
>> have
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>>> it.  However, I've just read about a radio transponder system that
>>> commercial vessels are required to use, and monitoring it with a
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>>> 
>> MAPPING
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>>> GPS attached, sounds like a more reliable method of identifying big
>>>    
>>> 
>> ships
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>>> in the area.  As I said the best equipment available.
>>> 
>>> The second point:  Boys and their toys.  Some of us take pride in our
>>> skills and accomplishments, in a minimalist fashion, and others of us
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>>> 
>> get
>>  
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>>> great enjoyment in pressing buttons and watching little teeny boxes do
>>> magic  that wasn't even possible with a room full of computers using
>>>    
>>> 
>> Kilo-
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>>> watts of power, a few short years ago.
>>> 
>>> Dan Bodnar
>>> S/V QOL (Quality of Life)
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>    
>>> 
>>>> From: Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net>
>>>> Sent: Feb 12, 2006 9:41 AM
>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GPS, Wally, Mary Lou, big spenders
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>    The GPS is great, but how much GPS is necessary?  Is external
>>>>      
>>>> 
>>> antenna
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>>> 
>>>>    necessary on a Rhodes 22?  A good hand held is all that is
>>>>      
>>>> 
>>> necessary.
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>>> 
>>>>    The big bucks some want to spend for color wide screen
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>>>> 
>> chartplotter
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>>> is
>>>    
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>>>> utter waste.
>>>> 
>>>>    Wally do you have a mount with external antenna for your kayak?
>>>>    For night sailing on Lake Hartwell we do not have one
>>>>      
>>>> 
>> lighthouse,
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>>>> especially
>>>>    not Michael's ten lighthouses.  Shipping channels?  Yea we have
>>>>      
>>>> 
>> a
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>>> main
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>>> 
>>>>    channel but as Rummy will tell you about an affair with the
>>>>      
>>>> 
>> Carver,
>>  
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>>>> they
>>>>    are the ones on autopilot, not the small boats.
>>>> 
>>>>    These newbies maybe should learn their boat before they sail in
>>>>      
>>>> 
>> fog,
>>  
>> 
>>> at
>>>    
>>> 
>>>> night
>>>>     or navigate at night or potentially foul weather far from home
>>>>      
>>>> 
>>> port.
>>>    
>>> 
>>>> By that time
>>>>     the gear will be outdated.
>>>> 
>>>>     As for that Maine sailor who navigates around icebergs to his
>>>>      
>>>> 
>>> island
>>>    
>>> 
>>>> retreat, his fellow
>>>>     Eskimos did it in kayaks without GPS.   Maybe he should
>>>>      
>>>> 
>> consider
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>>>> Eskimo day camp?
>>>> 
>>>>     Those worried about getting struck need one of those radar
>>>>      
>>>> 
>> units
>>  
>> 
>>> with
>>>    
>>> 
>>>> hazard
>>>>     approching warning attached to good klaxon.  You know like on a
>>>> submarine, dive, dive!
>>>>     Listen here:
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>>>> 
>>> http://www.classic-car-accessories.co.uk/acatalog/soundtklaxonred.html
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>>> 
>>>>     (Those units are available, but might have a large battery
>>>>      
>>>> 
>> draw,
>>  
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>>> where
>>>    
>>> 
>>>> is that spread sheet.)
>>>> 
>>>> Ed K
>>>> Greenville, SC, USA
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> View this message in context:
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>> http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes-22-in-fog-low-
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>>> visibility-Re%3A-GPS-reply-t1104918.html#a2896741
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