head space Re: [Rhodes22-list] Captain Jeff Herbert

jherbert jherbert at entermail.net
Tue Jan 24 12:19:14 EST 2006


I really appreciate your detailed responses...
You've all been very helpful.

Thanks again,

-- Jeff

On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:17:34 -0500, Mary Lou Troy wrote
> Jeff,
> Someone asked a similar question a while back. The question I was 
> answering was requesting more a comparison of installed marine heads 
> vs. porta poties but this is what I replied then: "To quote from 
> "Sailing Small", "we decided that the cabin seemed roomier in the 
> boats with a semi-enclosed head. We chose a portable toilet because 
> it was simpler than a marine head. While pumpouts are widely 
> available on the Chesapeake, there is always the chance we might 
> want to trailer to places where pumpouts are unavailable. The 
> portable toilet is easy enough to bring home to clean and we don't 
> have to bother with fixing head problems at the marina."
> 
> The more time we spend a marina with big boats, the happier I am 
> with the portable toilet. People see to be always fixing head 
> problems. We don't have any. Most of the time we just bring the head 
> home to empty it. It takes only a minute or two to empty it and give 
> it a good rinse. If we are out cruising, we generally stop every 
> second or third day to stay at a marina, get a shower and empty the 
> head. If we plan to be out longer, we do have an extra bottom with 
> the holding tank for our portable toilet. It doubles the length of 
> time we can be out."
> 
> If you are concerned about the space - it is really a matter of 
> personal preference and that may be governed by how you expect to 
> use the boat. If you are just going to be using the head on daysails,
>  it may not matter much either way. We live aboard the boat most 
> weekends from April through October and we wanted every inch of 
> space in the cabin. We use the v-berth for storage and sleep in the 
> cabin and found a way to make the semi-enclosed head fairly 
> accessible. I'm not sure how the enclosed head works with the cabin 
> berth set up You should take a look at both layouts. Fretless (with 
> the semi-enclosed head) is in our backyard here in Fort Washington 
> PA and you are welcome to come take a look.
> 
> BTW, the book I was referring to is "Sailing Small: Inspiration and 
> Instruction for the Pocket Cruiser" edited by Stan Grayson, Devereux 
> Books. I wrote Ch 5.
> 
> Mary Lou
> 1991 R22 Fretless
> Ft. Washington, PA / Swan Creek, MD
> 
> At 09:05 AM 1/24/2006 -0500, you wrote:
> >Hi Ed,
> >
> >I'm here the Lehigh Valley of Pa, impatiently waiting for winter to pass by.
> >I have a first mate, and several crew members. I hope to spend most of
> >my time in the Finger Lakes of NY (Lake Cayuga). I'm located about 2.5 hrs
> >from Raystown Lake in Pa, and about the same from the Chesapeake, and a little
> >less from NJ shore.  There are several smaller lakes close by that have 23'
> >restrictions, so, the Rhodes fits in these also.
> >Yes, I'm looking for a good sailing school to get the
> >basic keelboat certification, so, thanks for the information.
> >
> >Although the port-o-pottie vs. head discussion was very interesting,
> >Actually, I was wondering if there was a difference in the floorplan
> >of the semi-enclose head, vs. the enclosed head.
> >My first mate thinks the powder room is the way to go also...
> >
> >I'll try out the search engine.
> >
> >-- Jeff
> >
> >
> >
> >On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 16:53:27 -0800 (PST), Tootle (sent by Nabble.com) wrote
> > > Jeff:
> > >      Welcome aboard.  Did you pickup the flotsam directed at Captain
> > > Larry walker?  Commodore Bob Weber runs a real ASA sailing school,
> > > see:  http://www.odysseysailing.com/favorite.htm  I have been trying
> > > for years to get him to blow his fog horn.  He is halfway getting
> > > there, but needs to give his site.     Looking at a '88 recycle?
> > >  Hum, do we know another '88 on these waters.  I have a 84 with the
> > > portapottie set up behind the bulkhead.  Having seen the newer
> > > enclosed heads, I recommend the powder room.       You ought to
> > > learn how to search the archives.  We recently had a good discussion
> > > of marine head versus portapottie.  See:
> > >  http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2006-
> > > January/028274.html for searching instructions.        I noticed
> > > that you jumped in without telling us where you are, do you have a
> > > first mate, you know the important things.  Have you looked at:
> > > http://www.frappr.com/rhodes22  For some unknown reason it is hard
> > > to get people to post their location.  There are many more Rhodies
> > > out there than are on the Frapper site.  We even have bashful
> > > Rhodies in Canada, imagine that.
> > >
> > > Ed K
> > > Greenville, SC, USA
> > > http://www.sas.usace.army.mil/lakes/hartwell/
> > >
> > > --
> > > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Captain-Larry-
> > > Walker-t975927.html#a2547461 Sent from the Rhodes22 forum at Nabble.com.
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