[Rhodes22-list] Batteries

Saroj Gilbert saroj at pathfind.net
Tue Jan 31 19:06:13 EST 2006


Bill... did you mean to say you have NO solar and never use your battery to 
start the motor?  Is your motor your only means of charging the batteries? 
Do you use battery power much?

You do have a Xantrex meter apparently... what does this tell you?

Thanks,
Saroj

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 9:32 PM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Batteries


> Bob,
>
> How did you manage to do this?  Was one of the batteries damaged?  Did you 
> fail to add water to wet cells?  Wet cells?  Gel?  AGM?
>
> Link 10. -- Now Xantrex e-meter and this will never happen.  No excuse for 
> it.
>
> I have 2 batteries connected, no switch, solar, elec start motor -- I have 
> never, ever, needed a shore power charge, my batteries last for 6 years, I 
> leave them in the boat summer and winter...been down this road before.
>
> KISS with a meter -- the meter tells you of a problem coming 6 months 
> before it happens --BTW, just to add fuel to another fire, I don't replace 
> both batteries at the same time, I mix types, (one is AGM, one is Wet) I 
> prefer wet cells all round -- I know what the magazines and west adviser 
> say, I know the science behind it, but I'm a curious guy so I try it out 
> in my boat when it's not critical and what I find is that on our boats 
> with their minimal power needs it's really tough to drain well maintained 
> batteries.
>
> How did you do it?
>
> Bill Effros
>
> Bob Keller wrote:
>
>> I paid (overpaid?) someone to run cables from my electric start motor to 
>> the battery under the port settee.  Then we connected both batteries 
>> together and so now I charge both batteries with the motor, and two solar 
>> panels and even have an electric charger on board if needed.  Guess what? 
>> My batteries are currently dead...
>>
>> Anyway, I vote with Chris who used jumper cables.  The cables in my boat 
>> are big-but I don't know the size.  Lots of useful information here, 
>> isn't there?
>> Bob K
>>
>>
>>> From: Michel Meltzer <mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
>>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 mail list' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] 12 volt wire gauge from OB to Cabin 
>>> (10'maxassumed)
>>> Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 13:33:35 -0500
>>>
>>> Been their before on the sizing, IIRC my run from the front(under the
>>> step) to the mount lungs was 16 feet each way(32 total) and the motor
>>> had #8 wire leads for 8 feet each way(meant to go on the battery) for
>>> another 16 feet worth, it a good trip,, because the batty is far away
>>> the voltage regulator also gets effected on charging(i.e. the voltage
>>> drop), after everything was said and done, #4 came out right and I used
>>> #2 just to improve performance and all but handle a dead short. NOW #2
>>> could be a PITA for getting it passed the bulkhead but I did not have
>>> that issue. Using the breaker is just cheap insurance.
>>>
>>> -MJM
>>>
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-
>>> > bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of R22RumRunner at aol.com
>>> > Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 12:47 PM
>>> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 12 volt wire gauge from OB to Cabin (10'
>>> > maxassumed)
>>> >
>>> > Bill,
>>> > Not necessarily true. Having to large a wire makes for difficult
>>> handling,
>>> > but also is a waste of money. Sizing the wire to the required project
>>> is
>>> > always
>>> >  the best way to go.
>>> >
>>> > Rummy
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