[Rhodes22-list] New Sails, CDI

George Carpenter geocarp3 at mchsi.com
Sat Jun 10 12:26:35 EDT 2006


Peter:  I, too, want to replace my 175 genoa...and for the same reasons. 
Where do you plan to purchase your 155?

    George

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Thorn" <pthorn at nc.rr.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] New Sails, CDI


> Rod,
>
> For what it's worth Raven's CDI FF2 is a bit longer than the pin-to-pin
> dimension minus 12 1/4".  I think the CDI is about 5 or 6" less than the
> forestay pin-to-pin.  It has always worked very well.
>
> Raven's CDI might have been rigged by GBI or perhaps PO once-removed Gary
> Stanford.  Mark Kaynor purchased the boat from Gary in about 2001 and in
> early 2005 ago sold it to me.  The 175, however, is cut about 12" less in
> the luff than the CDI length, or about 17-18" inches short of the 
> masthead.
> I don't know why sailmakers leave so much luff area unused, but it seems 
> to
> be commonly done. I wonder if the uppers stays are an issue?
>
> I like your selection of sails and am considering a higher clewed and full
> luffed 155 to replace Raven's aging and original decksweeping 175.  In 
> light
> air (under 4) it's difficult to fill Raven's old Lee Sails 175 because the
> cloth is too heavy.  At 15 knots the 175 is too much sail and must be
> furled.  So, I'm thinking a fuller luffed 155 of 3.4 oz Dacron cloth might
> work better.  With a higher clew (check out the higher clewed Genoa in the
> opening photo on the GBI website) perhaps the headsail would tack more
> easily too, keeping the clew above the turnbuckles etc. In light air (we
> have lots in the summer) I sit on the lee side and a higher clew would 
> also
> allow better vision under the leeward bow headsail foot.  Lastly, the 155
> would be best for PHRF racing to avoid a rating penalty.  Unless I learn 
> of
> a good reason not to, I plan to order the sail full luff. It seems a no
> brainer to collect all the available sail area for the same LP 
> measurement.
>
> Raven came with a 2003 high clewed Mack Sails main. It's a nice sail and
> furls very well, but it's preventing me from purchasing one of  Stan's
> improved vertical batten mains.  That seems like a great idea!  I would 
> like
> to know how your helm balances with you new sails.  Perhaps more area in 
> the
> main and less up front might improve a slight tendency for leeward helm in
> light air.
>
> Happy sailing,
>
> PT
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ellner" <ellner at pressenter.com>
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:40 PM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Sails, CDI
>
>
>>
>>
>> New vertical batten IMF main and 150% genoa and new CDI.
>>
>> I hope to take the old sails off this weekend. I'll try to get it done in
>> the early morning before the winds picks up.
>>
>> Thanks to Stan for the fast turn around time and good service.
>>
>> Right now I'm getting my courage up enough to cut the luff to match the
>> forestay. The directions look pretty straight forward.
>> The luff is to be cut 12 1/4" less than the pin to pin measurement of the
>> forestay. Has anyone done this recently?
>> My forestay measurement is 28'-4" with the turnbuckle at about mid point.
>>
>> Rod Ellner
>> Toy Blew
>>
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