[Rhodes22-list] Tacking

[KUHN, LELAND]

Bill,

That balancing thing is too cool!

I tried it in about 8 knot winds without the tiller lock and no hands on
the tiller.  I couldn't believe it worked.  Can I assume that you can do
this on all sailboats?  I did notice that it didn't take much of a shift
in my weight to turn the boat--made me feel like I was on a big
surfboard.

I tried it again in about 15-20 knot winds with the tiller locked
straight on a close reach, and the boat would go into the wind until the
genoa just started luffing, and then it would turn downwind about 30
degrees, and then back upwind again.  The knot meter showed that the
boat sailed faster without my interference.  Rather embarrassing.
Shifting my weight had less of an impact; I'm guessing due to the higher
winds.  Since I was the only one on board, it kind of freaked me out
that the boat may not have stopped if I fell overboard.  I had a life
jacket on but I'm thinking that a tether may not be too bad of an idea.

Thanks for the advice!

Lee

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Effros [mailto:bill at effros.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:25 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tacking

Lee,

I rarely heel more than 15 degrees, and usually less, even in high 
winds.  I never have a problem jibing in high winds.  I would guess that

is the problem.  The wind is pushing your sail down toward the water.  
How does the wind get under your sail to push it back up and over?

I think the concept of "reefing" throws off our seamanship when sailing 
an R-22.  We have 2 infinitely variable sails that can be adjusted by 
those drunk chicks at night if they feel like it.

The trick with an R-22 is to keep it in balance on all axes.  Some 
people think of this as "tender".  The balance is so fine, you can throw

it off just by walking around the cockpit.  For me, it's fun.

The boat will go surprisingly fast if you know how to do it.  However it

often has an extremely untraditional look.  I constantly roll both sails

back and forth to balance the boat when I'm playing.  There's nothing 
quite as much fun as rolling the sails in and going faster.  In high 
winds you will find that is the case.  The boat will be better 
balanced.  You can tack much more than you would think.  You can always 
jibe.

Bill Effros



Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote:
> Lee,
> Re high wind tacking, was the centerboard fully down?
> Art
>
> -----Original Message-----
>   
>> From: "KUHN, LELAND" <LKUHN at cnmc.org>
>> Sent: Jun 6, 2006 6:32 PM
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] search archives site rhodes22.org rhodes22
find
>>
>> 1.  Sorry about the subject line, but if you Google "search
>> site:rhodes22.org" you won't find the posts that tell us new people
how
>> to search the archives.  I thought Google might have a better chance
of
>> finding it with a different subject line.  I know less about search
>> engines than sailing, so I might be peeing to windward.  Once more
for
>> the new people, if you want to search the archives for posts related
to
>> "tacking," put tacking site:rhodes22.org in the Google search field.
>> It's worked well for me.  If one of you old-timers has a better
method,
>> please share.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2.  HUGE thanks to everyone who contributes to this list.  As a new
>> sailor, I can't tell you how many questions I've had answered by the
>> archives.  So far I've only had two questions that I couldn't get
>> answered:
>>
>>
>>
>> 	a.	It looks like you can hit theoretical hull speed at 10
>> knots, and most people will reef before 15 knots.  I'll probably
figure
>> this out through trial and error, but I'm not that patient.  When and
>> how do you reef?  For example, at 15 knots do you reef 20% of the
genoa
>> and none of the mainsail?  What percentage of the genoa and mainsail
do
>> you reef at various wind speeds?  I have the 175 decksweeper.
>> 	b.	I feel really stupid asking this question.  If it gets
>> too windy you can't tack.  It looks like that's about 28 knots with a
>> Rhodes.  Detelin (aka Ditto) commissioned my boat and he did an
>> excellent job.  We were burying the rail and had way too much sail
out
>> for the conditions, but I swear there were times when we couldn't
jibe.
>> Not tack, jibe.  I thought you could always jibe.  The rudder was all
>> the way down and clutched into position.  Could it be possible that
we
>> were heeled so much that there wasn't enough rudder in the water to
>> steer the boat?  Doesn't it seem like the wind would have still
pushed
>> the bow to leeward?  I asked the experienced sailors at my marina
about
>> this and they confirmed that you can always jibe, but their
40-footers
>> may have too much weight and not enough sail to perform this trick.
Has
>> this every happened to anyone else?
>>
>>
>>
>> 3.  Non-sailing discussions.  When I first discovered the
rhodes22-list,
>> I was disappointed that so little of it had to do with sailing.  I
was
>> also disappointed that some of the members were such rude buttholes.
>> Many of the comments were beyond what you would say to another sailor
>> over a drink in a bar, if you were at all concerned for your own
safety.
>> Now that I'm addicted to all the political commentaries and other
>> non-sailing discussions, I also realize that some of the biggest
>> buttholes are also the most helpful to us newbies.  So thanks for
>> informing us about sailing and entertaining us about everything else.

>>
>>
>>
>> Lee
>>
>> Kent Island, MD
>>
>> 1986 Rhodes22
>>
>> S/V At Ease
>>
>>
>>
>> * The level of discussion does not have to be fit for a child, but
some
>> good taste is expected.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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