[Rhodes22-list] Reduce your federal income tax (political humor)

[Bill Effros]

Wally,

Around here, if the crews are employed by local businesses and are on 
the payroll, they pay taxes.  Failure to do so is is a "Go to Jail" 
card, and the local Americans  have too much to lose.  This is probably 
what Gregg is looking at in Cincinnati.

The alternative is for the local contractors to hire "Independent 
Contractors".  The "Independent Contractors" can easily slide below the 
radar screen and pay little payroll taxes, but they better pay Corporate 
Income Taxes and Sales Taxes and set up some sort of Payroll or they 
will get caught because the local businesses show the payments they are 
making.

I speak to the people who work for me, and they tend to be quite 
forthcoming.  They tell me their papers are phony, and they tell me that 
by law I must accept them.  They are right.  Employers are not allowed 
to act as cops.  We are not allowed to discriminate.  We can't determine 
which papers are valid and which are not -- especially when the Federal 
Government can easily do so, and choses not to.  We set them up on our 
payrolls, and we make sure their taxes get paid.

What's more, as everyone trying to hire people to make this economy grow 
will tell you, we can't find as good workers, no matter what we're 
willing to pay.  And we're not talking about "people willing to do 
things no American will do".  We are talking about skilled, high paying 
jobs in all fields.

Our kids don't know how to work.  They were born rich compared to the 
rest of the world, and they believe they are entitled to stay rich 
without ever having to work up a sweat.  One way or another, these 
foreigner born people are going to eat our kids' lunch.

Bill Effros





TN Rhodey wrote:
> Bill,
>
> Yeah you are probably right. It is pretty much unheard of for 
> construction/home improvement business and workers to not pay taxes. LOL!
>
> Wally
>
>
>> From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Reduce your federal income tax 
>> (political humor)
>> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 08:04:37 -0400
>>
>> Wally,
>>
>> The people working on my house are earning $25 an hour from 
>> established mulitmillion dollar a year contractors.  The contractors 
>> know they face serious jail time if they fail to pay taxes, and they 
>> know they are an industry closely watched by the IRS.  I am more sure 
>> the people working on my house are paying taxes than I am sure you 
>> are paying taxes.
>>
>> If you think they are not paying taxes, turn in the employers to the 
>> IRS.  You get a percentage of what's recovered.
>>
>> Bill Effros
>>
>>
>>
>> TN Rhodey wrote:
>>> Bill,
>>>
>>> You are certain they pay taxes: how so?
>>>
>>> Wally
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Bill Effros <bill at effros.com>
>>>> Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Reduce your federal income tax 
>>>> (political humor)
>>>> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 21:32:55 -0400
>>>>
>>>> Dave,
>>>>
>>>> It's a really tough problem with no simple answers.  Yes, the 
>>>> politicians are pandering, but putting that aside, we are all 
>>>> somehow complicit.  The last time I checked, our government had 
>>>> collected half a trillion dollars on bogus Social Security 
>>>> numbers.  Those funds are never going to be paid out to the people 
>>>> who paid them in, and that money is being used to bolster everyone 
>>>> else's social security.
>>>>
>>>> I went out of my way to hire local "American" contractors to do 
>>>> work on my house, but they all showed up with illegals in their 
>>>> employ after bitching about how the immigrants were taking their 
>>>> jobs.  And the foreigners are good workers, decent people.  They 
>>>> work hard, don't complain, clean up after themselves, are 
>>>> courteous, pay taxes, -- in short they would be model citizens and 
>>>> are a pleasure to have around.
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile my house is like the United Nations.  In the last week we 
>>>> have had Brazilians, Ecuadorans, Mexicans, Czechs, Colombians, 
>>>> Peruvians, a Brit, a Frenchman, a Canadian, a Jamaican, all working 
>>>> like people used to work when we were kids.
>>>>
>>>> I am certain they all pay taxes, and many of them will hang around 
>>>> long enough to become citizens.  What's wrong with that?  They will 
>>>> make good citizens.  But they are certainly eating the lunch of 
>>>> others who have been here longer, and I feel their pain.
>>>>
>>>> There is no way we can track them all down and get rid of them.  
>>>> Our economy is dependent on them; we need them.  I have no answers, 
>>>> just a lot of questions.  I think this solution is preferable to 
>>>> outsourcing all this work around the globe.
>>>>
>>>> Bill Effros
>>>>
>>>> DCLewis1 at aol.com wrote:
>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps you are right, but based on nearly everything I see they 
>>>>> are  having their families here (where family often means a 
>>>>> matriarch overseeing a  conglomeration of children from various 
>>>>> sources). And of course if the child is  born in the US, for 
>>>>> whatever reason, it's a US citizen. And once you have a  child as 
>>>>> a US citizen and a parent who's not you are faced with the dilemma 
>>>>> of  separating the mother and/or father (illegal aliens) from the 
>>>>> child (US  citizen). Who woulda thunk, right? This is why our 
>>>>> legislators get paid the big  bucks.  Do the legislators really 
>>>>> care?  Of course they do, it's an election  year.
>>>>>  Dave
>>>>>
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