[Rhodes22-list] Ed, Bob, Art, Julia, Bud - Sailing Locales

[Bud]

Wally,
  you are right, Melbourne is just south of Cocoa, and yes Cocoa is a 
nice little town. 
You can sail/motor right up to the public docks, enjoy the town with 
dinner/shopping etc.
And it is neat to be sailing with a family of dolphins swimming along side.

-Bud

TN Rhodey wrote:

> Bud,
>
> I think this is the area my Uncle sails out of. He lives in Cocoa (not 
> Cocoa Beach) right on the ICW. Isn't Melbourne near there. My Aunt and 
> Uncle love the area. Stores, library, shops, marinas....all within 
> walking distance.
>
> The sailing is quite nice and you can get outside pretty quick if you 
> want to. The part of the ICW has very little tide fluctuation due to 
> small locks. We saw Manatee and dolphins. This is also a great area 
> for watching shuttle launchings by boat.
>
>> From what I remember it wasn't real deep but a R22 would do well.
>
>
> Wally
>
>
>> From: Bud <budconnor at earthlink.net>
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>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Ed, Bob, Art, Julia, Bud - Sailing Locales
>> Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 22:17:50 -0500
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>> Dave,
>>  the ICW is at least a mile wide here, and is typically deep (8'-12') 
>> and is a great place to sail anything in
>> our class.  I occasionally crew on a Lindbergh '28 (at times we've 
>> had 7 people on the rail!) and we have no
>> trouble maneuvering around the course.  Take a quick look on mapquest 
>> and you will see wide water
>> from Scottsmoor down to Stuart which is over a 100 miles, with 
>> Melbourne in the middle.  You will be
>> suprised how wide and un-crowded this area is.  If you want to see a 
>> narrow ICW, take a look at Daytona
>> on mapquest.  If I lived in Daytona I would have taken up motorcycles 
>> instead of sailing. Oh, if you use
>> GoogleEarth, you can see just how sparsely populated the water really 
>> is.
>>
>> -Bud
>>
>>
>>
>> DCLewis1 at aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> Ed,  We intend to look @ Hartwell and Keowee.  IâEUR^(TM)m sure 
>>> Rummy  would welcome another Rhodes on his lake.  At a minimum, 
>>> itâEUR^(TM)s someone else  he could beat - easily.   Maybe he'd feel 
>>> better about it if we  arrived with a bottle of Mt Gay, or is it jar 
>>> of Ben Gay?
>>>
>>> Regarding Sen Russell, youâEUR^(TM)re right, IâEUR^(TM)d forgotten.  
>>> Regarding Strom,  IâEUR^(TM)m sure he did work hard for, and 
>>> represent, his constituents, he was  re-elected many times.
>>>
>>> Art,  Regarding Lanier, the Corps advertises 7.5M visitors/yr.   Wow!
>>>
>>> Julia,   I think youâEUR^(TM)re right, Hudson and Dunedin have 
>>> survived  on our list. To out knowledge, available marinas in that 
>>> part of the world  are at Tarpon Springs, we checked at Dunedin and 
>>> Tarpon Springs, I donâEUR^(TM)t think  Hudson is directly on the 
>>> water.  We were told that marinas in the area  have been converted 
>>> to waterfront condos or are wildly oversubscribed because of  the 
>>> conversion of so many other marinas to waterfront condos.  As I 
>>> recall,  the guy running the Dunedin marina said it would take at 
>>> least 2 years for a 22'  sailboat to get a slip in their marina - if 
>>> the boat were 30'  or over he  projected a 4+ year wait - and 
>>> weâEUR^(TM)d have to be residents of Dunedin to even be  put on the 
>>> list.  There are slips available at Tarpon Springs.  One  issue with 
>>> that entire  area is the water is shallow water.  We were  told by a 
>>> marina operator @ Tarpon Springs that if you sailed a mile off 
>>> shore,  the depth would increase by about a foot - you could walk 
>>> home if something  happened to the boat.  The charts show a very 
>>> extended shelf in that part  of the world.  The mean depth around 
>>> Dunedin is about 2 feet, as I recall  (could be wrong about the 2', 
>>> but itâEUR^(TM)s shallow).   So thin water is an  issue in that part 
>>> of Fla - but it is warm, so itâEUR^(TM)s still on the list.
>>>
>>> BobF,  Thanks for your post, I checked back and saw TomâEUR^(TM)s 
>>> subsequent  post.  It explains everything we saw.  But his 2 posts 
>>> also identify a  substantial problem: marinaâEUR^(TM)s are out, at 
>>> least for the near term,  because  the Florida EPA wonâEUR^(TM)t let 
>>> them dredge, ramps are not great, so Tom recommends a  waterfront or 
>>> canal back home.  Tom reports they start at about $1.2M - and  we 
>>> all know they can be blown or washed away by the next big storm.   
>>> Actually, when we were there we saw several canal backed homes that 
>>> were in the  $700Ks, but they were older (IâEUR^(TM)d guess 
>>> âEUR~50s) and pretty small - PG/PC has been  around for a while and 
>>> the part near the water likely developed first.  So  its getting 
>>> problematic given PG/PCs storm history, boating infrastructure  (or 
>>> lack of infrastructure), and very near term development.
>>>
>>> IâEUR^(TM)d thought PG/PC might be a good place for the snowbird 
>>> trick, just get a  condo/townhouse and rent a slip - limit hurricane 
>>> risk by limiting  investment. The problem is no slips, few ramps, 
>>> and a tremendous amount of  development thatâEUR^(TM)s going to 
>>> exacerbate the need for slips and ramps (as I recall  there are at 
>>> least 3 high rise condos going in on PG Isles in a relatively small  
>>> area just outside the park entrance no direct water access with any 
>>> of  them - and thatâEUR^(TM)s only one place in PG).  IâEUR^(TM)m 
>>> starting to think that  making PG/PC work could be a challenge.
>>>
>>> Bud, Thanks for suggesting Melbourne.  Can you really sail that 
>>> part  of the ICW?  Except as the ICW transects various sounds, the 
>>> parts of the  ICW IâEUR^(TM)ve seen on the east coast have been 
>>> relatively narrow.  I concluded  sailing the ICW entails some 
>>> sailing and a lot of motoring unless the wind  cooperates.  I have 
>>> no experience sailing the ICW, am I wrong?
>>>
>>> Also, I can report that in the Palm Coast area, and possibly other 
>>> areas (  i.e. Southport NC), developers have negotiated cut-outs 
>>> from the ICW where  they
>>> âEUR^(TM)ve built marinas for a hundred or so boats at a site.  I 
>>> can see real  traffic jams developing in those areas when the 
>>> multitude of local recreational  boaters take to the relatively 
>>> confined ICW ditch.  Does Melbourne have  that problem?   
>>> IâEUR^(TM)m ambivalent about recreational sailing in the ICW,  as 
>>> opposed to using it as a passage from point A to point B, do people 
>>> sail  22' boats recreationally in the ICW (this comment applies only 
>>> to  âEURoethe big  ditchâEUR? part of the ICW not the sounds, river 
>>> mouths, behind keys,  etc)?
>>>
>>> Our next trek is pseudo-local,  Kilmarnock VA, Washington NC via 
>>> Edenton (try to check on our boat), and New  Bern NC (again).  This 
>>> is our 3rd trip to New Bern, it  has a lot  going for it (Neuse 
>>> River & Pamlico Sound),  but it can get cold.   Not as cold as 
>>> Northern Va, but a lot colder than Fla.  Later this year 
>>> itâEUR^(TM)ll be the lakes trek.
>>>
>>> Thanks again to everyone for your input.  Your local knowledge is  
>>> really helpful.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
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