[Rhodes22-list] Claude's wiring project

Bud budconnor at earthlink.net
Wed May 10 15:27:52 EDT 2006 

Claude,
  if you decide to protect your VHF with just an in-line fuse, you 
should consider putting
that fuse as close to the battery as possible.   If the fuse is near the 
radio and the wire
gets shorted-out somewhere along the run, the fuse will provide no 
protection.

-Bud

Claude Cox wrote:

>Bud;
>
>At present, 6 circuits: cabin lights, nav lights, steaming light, anchor
>light, instruments, and VHF.  However, given the current discussion with
>Saroj about VHF connections, and that I may put the cabin lights and anchor
>light on the same circuit, there could be four.
>
>Claude  
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>>[Original Message]
>>From: Bud <budconnor at earthlink.net>
>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Date: 5/10/2006 6:24:05 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Claude's wiring project
>>
>>Claude,
>>  how many circuits are you planning to install?
>>
>>-Bud Connor
>>
>>Claude Cox wrote:
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>>>Todd;
>>>
>>>Thanks for your response.  You are not out of order for suggesting I may
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>be
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>>>in over my head on this project.  I have been trying to get with one of
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>the
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>>>best marine electrics person in the area, but he is incredibly busy. 
>>>Should I reach the point where I recognize my incompetence to proceed
>>>further, I'll try a professional.  Rummy has offered to help as long as I
>>>keep the rum barrel full, and I know he has completed several electrical
>>>upgrades, so I may put out for the rum, and call him in.
>>>
>>>You asked a few questions:  my boat is set up fairly simply--nav lights,
>>>cabin lights, steaming light, instruments, and VHF.  The two Grp 27
>>>wet-cell batteries that came with the boat have died from benign
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>neglect. 
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>>>What I know about DC circuits is what I've read in preparation for this
>>>project--I understand the basics, but I am a visual learner, and it would
>>>be most helpful to see this stuff done by a pro at least once.  What do I
>>>know about AC circuits?  Stay the hell away from it unless you know what
>>>you are doing.  I appreciate your suggestion to do the simpler things
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>now,
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>>>and let a pro tackle the AC stuff later, and, as a matter of fact, have
>>>been considering just that.  A simple wiring schematic would not be a
>>>problem.  I had thought of paralleling batteries to double the amp hours.
>>>
>>>The original location of the electrical panel (just above the step into
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>the
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>>>cabin) is somewhat vulnerable--more than once I have kicked the panel,
>>>unintentionally closing a circuit.  In addition, the space will not
>>>accommodate the larger panel I'm planning to install.
>>>
>>>Thanks for your questions; keep asking--you may ask me some I should have
>>>thought of, but didn't.
>>>
>>>Claude    
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>>>>[Original Message]
>>>>From: Todd Tavares <sprocket80 at mail.com>
>>>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>Date: 5/8/2006 11:56:57 PM
>>>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Claude's wiring project
>>>>
>>>>Claude,
>>>>
>>>>Comparing your list of electrical wiring necessities and desires to your
>>>>questions of actually doing the wiring....and forgive me for saying
>>>>this....but it seems you may be in a bit over your head.  I am basing
>>>>this assumption on your questions about wiring lights in a series on the
>>>>same circuit.  I am afraid to think about how to explain to you, how to
>>>>do advanced wiring like tying AC shore power in to the boats electrical
>>>>system, paralleling batteries, adding in chargers, monitors, and 110v
>>>>outlets.  Maybe some of us here can help get you started with the basic
>>>>DC system first.  Then down the road you could tackle the shore power,
>>>>chargers, outlets, and monitors.
>>>>
>>>>Let me ask you a few basic questions so we know where to start helping.
>>>>
>>>>How is your boat set up now? 
>>>>
>>>>How much do you know about (DC) electrical circuits?
>>>>
>>>>How much do you know about (AC) circuits?
>>>>
>>>> Do you know how to read simple wiring schematics, and understand the
>>>>difference between series and parallel circuits?
>>>>
>>>>Why do you want to relocate the main electrical panel?
>>>>
>>>>Todd T.
>>>>
>>>>(I know Michael is cringing right now)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Claude Cox"
>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] (no subject)
>>>> Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 21:29:49 -0400
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Everyone;
>>>>
>>>> I don't say much on the list, but I lurk, and listen real good.
>>>> For those of you who don't know me: Celtic Lass is docked at
>>>> Aqualand Marina, Lake Lanier, 45 minutes from Atlanta. She is a
>>>> recycled (2000) 1986, and has become like a project boat, as I am
>>>> upgrading the electrical system in preparation for doing some
>>>> serious trailer sailing. It is around this project that my issues
>>>> revolve. I have looked in the archives for help, and, while
>>>> getting some good info, I don't get all that I need. Knowing of
>>>> the vast expertise on this list, I have worked up the courage to
>>>> put my issues before you, and seek your help with a project that
>>>> sometimes feels overwhelming.
>>>>
>>>> I have gutted the cabin, leaving only the galley counter top,
>>>> compression post/panel, and the potty; this to see the wire "runs"
>>>> to determine if I could do the necessary wiring/re-wiring. I am:
>>>> (1) moving the electrical panel to a spot above the galley and on
>>>> the compression post/panel that separates the galley from the
>>>> V-berth; (2) installing two Grp 27 Lifeline AGM batteries,
>>>> paralleled; a battery monitor; a battery charger; a couple of 12VDC
>>>> outlets; a 110 V outlet; a 30A shore-power inlet, and an anchor
>>>> light.
>>>>
>>>> I understand what's to be done. I've read and re-read Don Casey
>>>> (Sailboat Electrics Simplified), and Charlie Wing (Boatowner's
>>>> Illustrated Handbook of Wiring). Understanding is not the
>>>> problem--execution is. For example: I will have nav lights on one
>>>> circuit, cabin lights on one circuit, and steaming light, anchor
>>>> light, instruments, and VHF each on their own cirucit. How do I do
>>>> the wiring, especially lights in a series on the same circuit (I'm
>>>> asking about actually doing the wiritng correctly)? What am I
>>>> missing here? I feel like there are other questions I should ask,
>>>> but don't know what they are. Maybe some of you know. If you do,
>>>> I would greatly appreciate knowing what they are.
>>>>
>>>> This has been a long post, I know, and I appreciate you taking time
>>>> to read it. As a retired school teacher, I can't say anything
>>>> briefly. All responses will be much appreciated, and I will
>>>> certainly keep the list posted as to my progress.
>>>>
>>>> Claude
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Claude Cox
>>>> cccox at mindspring.com
>>>> EarthLink Revolves Around You.
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