[Rhodes22-list] WTF?

[Daniel S Bodnar]

Don't they teach history anymore?  Doesn't anyone remember the McCarthy
Communist witch hunts and the lives ruined by that-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_McCarthy ? 

It doesn't take much to turn this into an opportunity to persecute political
opponents, or economic rivals.  The "6 degrees of separation theory" would
say that if there are 100 terrorists in the country and if each of them
orders a pizza, we are on the watch list, if any of us has ordered a pizza
since 9/11. 
And if you regularly order a pizza from the same joint as a terrorist, start
listening for extra clicks when you use the phone.

My ramblings aren't as ludicrous as they sound; it is just history repeating
itself. And as Saroj points out, the feds are not shy about abusing power.

Dan Bodnar
SV QOL


-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Saroj Gilbert
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:50 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] WTF?

...and if someone thinks that our lackadaisical attitude towards the erosion

of our much-loved personal freedoms is o.k. as long as we aren't calling Al 
Qaida members, google "RICO" and "forfeiture" and check out what has 
happened to this legislation that was originally intended to prevent 
organized crime from profiting from their crimes when normal legal process 
failed.  Starting in the 80's it began to be used against average citizens 
who were "suspected" of illegal activity with no legitimate "due process"...

"reasonable suspicion" was the criteria used for law enforcement to seize 
and keep assets... you may be surprised with how extensive the abuses are.

www.acluutah.org/assetforfeiture.htm
www.house.org/paul/press/press99/pr061799.htm
www.aclu.org/crimjustice/searchseizure/10303leg19990802.html

I have personally been a victim of this nasty legislation... cost me approx.

$3000 to get my van back... and the police managed to strip it and cause a 
lot of damage before I did.

Saroj

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Slim" <salm at mn.rr.com>
To: "Rhodes22-list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 1:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] WTF?


> Dammit, I'm pissed!  I'm appalled, disgusted, frightened and sickened.  W.
> has the nerve to espouse "freedom" as he takes it away from us!
>
> Stirring the pot and ducking for cover.
>
> Slim
>
>
> On 5/11/06 10:57 PM, "Slim" <salm at mn.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> So now mein furer is tracking all my calls and emails??!!
>> He says no innocent citizen is being monitored.  No listening or 
>> trolling.
>> I guess I don't have a problem unless I'm talking to my man about a big, 
>> fat
>> bag of...(line went dead).
>>
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