[Rhodes22-list] WTF?

[Chris Geankoplis]

Just ask all the victims of a guy named J. Edgar Hoover.  He managed to
gather lots of "security information" and then used it to manipulate the
system and maintain his power.  Heck he even got a big building named after
him!
Chris G
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daniel S Bodnar" <dsbodnar at earthlink.net>
To: "'The Rhodes 22 mail list'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 10:33 PM
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] WTF?


> Don't they teach history anymore?  Doesn't anyone remember the McCarthy
> Communist witch hunts and the lives ruined by that-
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_McCarthy ?
>
> It doesn't take much to turn this into an opportunity to persecute
political
> opponents, or economic rivals.  The "6 degrees of separation theory" would
> say that if there are 100 terrorists in the country and if each of them
> orders a pizza, we are on the watch list, if any of us has ordered a pizza
> since 9/11.
> And if you regularly order a pizza from the same joint as a terrorist,
start
> listening for extra clicks when you use the phone.
>
> My ramblings aren't as ludicrous as they sound; it is just history
repeating
> itself. And as Saroj points out, the feds are not shy about abusing power.
>
> Dan Bodnar
> SV QOL
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Saroj Gilbert
> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:50 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] WTF?
>
> ...and if someone thinks that our lackadaisical attitude towards the
erosion
>
> of our much-loved personal freedoms is o.k. as long as we aren't calling
Al
> Qaida members, google "RICO" and "forfeiture" and check out what has
> happened to this legislation that was originally intended to prevent
> organized crime from profiting from their crimes when normal legal process
> failed.  Starting in the 80's it began to be used against average citizens
> who were "suspected" of illegal activity with no legitimate "due
process"...
>
> "reasonable suspicion" was the criteria used for law enforcement to seize
> and keep assets... you may be surprised with how extensive the abuses are.
>
> www.acluutah.org/assetforfeiture.htm
> www.house.org/paul/press/press99/pr061799.htm
> www.aclu.org/crimjustice/searchseizure/10303leg19990802.html
>
> I have personally been a victim of this nasty legislation... cost me
approx.
>
> $3000 to get my van back... and the police managed to strip it and cause a
> lot of damage before I did.
>
> Saroj
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Slim" <salm at mn.rr.com>
> To: "Rhodes22-list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 1:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] WTF?
>
>
> > Dammit, I'm pissed!  I'm appalled, disgusted, frightened and sickened.
W.
> > has the nerve to espouse "freedom" as he takes it away from us!
> >
> > Stirring the pot and ducking for cover.
> >
> > Slim
> >
> >
> > On 5/11/06 10:57 PM, "Slim" <salm at mn.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >> So now mein furer is tracking all my calls and emails??!!
> >> He says no innocent citizen is being monitored.  No listening or
> >> trolling.
> >> I guess I don't have a problem unless I'm talking to my man about a
big,
> >> fat
> >> bag of...(line went dead).
> >>
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