[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22

Bob Weber ruba1811 at hotmail.com
Mon May 22 16:37:53 EDT 2006


George, no recommendations on a loft but I am starting to see a lot of head 
sails that do not have the sun cover sewm into the leach/foot.  When parked 
there is a sleeve which is hoisted up over the furled headsail to protect it 
from the sun.  That is probably the direction I will go when the time comes. 
  Bob


>From: "George Carpenter" <geocarp3 at mchsi.com>
>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22
>Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:04:07 -0500
>
>Bob:  I'm hitch hiking on your message to Rex about the genoa. I received 
>my '91 recycled Rhodes from Stan last year and LOVE it. I did however, 
>choose the Doyle 175 and have found it, as you said, heavy and poorly 
>shaped in light winds. Since my winds (Iowa) are normally 10-20 I think a 
>155 would work quite fine. Do you have any recommendations of a sail loft?
>
>    George Carpenter
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Weber" <ruba1811 at hotmail.com>
>To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 1:00 PM
>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22
>
>
>>Rex, Congratulations - The questions have just started most likely.  You 
>>will be able to catch Don on most points of sail in winds up to 10  and 
>>you will keep pace with him in higher winds if you have some rail meat. 
>>What color are you thinking?  The red is sharp.  Keep in touch.  Bob
>>
>>
>>>From: Charles Henthorn <rexh at sbcglobal.net>
>>>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22
>>>Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 10:23:02 -0700 (PDT)
>>>
>>>Bob:
>>>     Thanks again for all your help.  I"ve contacted Stan and we're 
>>>working on a boat for me.
>>>   Rex
>>>
>>>
>>>Bob Weber <ruba1811 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>   Rex, good questions - here goes
>>>
>>>My only
>>>concern was running with the main because the inner shrouds will not 
>>>permit
>>>you
>>>to really let the main out fully.
>>>Yes it gets out about 80 degrees before contacting the shroud. I have 
>>>found
>>>this to be the case on other keel boats. The boat does not sail well
>>>straight down wind unless you are winged - but I don't like running 
>>>anyway
>>>and will almost always opt for two broad reaches over running. The boom
>>>angle for broad reaching is not bad.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>So long as your using the genoa, it appears
>>>the main isn't really going to be driving the boat anyway.
>>>You are a quick learner.
>>>
>>>
>>>I forgot to ask the location of the battery.
>>>It is under the V-bearth - the two battery set up has a second battery 
>>>under
>>>the port settee.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>The other question I wanted to ask but
>>>forgot until we were on our way back, the pop-top creates one more 
>>>potential
>>>opening to the cabin that might make it more vulnerable to the
>>>weather----does
>>>it seal itself pretty well when the boat is unattended and locked up?
>>>I was getting some slight water incursions right by the door and made 
>>>cover
>>>for the doghouse which solved the problem. I need to reseat a port light 
>>>-
>>>I don't think it is a design flaw I must have just done a bad job when I 
>>>did
>>>it last year.
>>>
>>>
>>>What %
>>>genoa is yours?
>>>155 - I think it is the perfect combination - recommend it over the 175 
>>>or
>>>less sail (unless you are in a real windy area) If you get a choice - I
>>>think there are better head sails than the doyel. It is heavy and looses
>>>shape off the wind. That would be an upgrade I would consider if I were 
>>>to
>>>do it again.
>>>
>>>
>>>Did you get other foresails --- if so which and would you do it
>>>the same way?
>>>If I replace the furler I will get one where i can change headsails 
>>>without
>>>dropping the mast. A light 175 or a strom sail would be nice to have.
>>>
>>>
>>> >From: Charles Henthorn
>>> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>> >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22
>>> >Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 06:56:53 -0700 (PDT)
>>> >
>>> >Bob: Not sure this message a week ago last Sunday got delivered.
>>> >Re-sending it just in case.
>>> >
>>> > Bob:
>>> >
>>> > Thank you for being such a great host yesterday on Lake Carlyle. Don
>>> >and I both enjoyed ourselves and learned a lot about your Rhodes22. I 
>>> >was
>>> >impressed with its performance and stability. My guess is that those
>>>winds
>>> >were gusting to 25 knots at times and it just kept on truckin. It turns
>>> >on a dime. My only concern was running with the main because the inner
>>> >shrouds will not permit you to really let the main out fully. So long 
>>>as
>>> >your using the genoa, it appears the main isn't really going to be
>>>driving
>>> >the boat anyway.
>>> > I forgot to ask the location of the battery. Despite all the storage
>>> >facilities I opened, I never saw it. The other question I wanted to ask
>>> >but forgot until we were on our way back, the pop-top creates one more
>>> >potential opening to the cabin that might make it more vulnerable to 
>>>the
>>> >weather----does it seal itself pretty well when the boat is unattended
>>>and
>>> >locked up? What % genoa is yours? Did you get other foresails --- if so
>>> >which and would you do it the same way?
>>> > Thanks again Bob.
>>> > Rex
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Bob Weber wrote: Rex, sure give me a call.
>>> >314-960-3226 BW
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > >From: Charles Henthorn
>>> > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>> > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>> > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22
>>> > >Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 19:47:56 -0700 (PDT)
>>> > >
>>> > >Bob:
>>> > > Just checked the weather for your area this afternoon and Saturday
>>> > >looks like 30% chance of rain and 7 mph winds unless the forecaster 
>>>is
>>> > >wrong or some system messes up their prediction. To me, 30% is better
>>> >than
>>> > >70% and this forecast doesn't make a difference but it may to you. > 
>>> >What
>>> > >time in the morning do you rise on Saturday and would you want me to
>>>call
>>> > >just before we load up Sat morning and head your direction (just in
>>>case
>>> > >its one of those days that you would prefer not being out).
>>> > > Rex
>>> > >
>>> > >Bob Weber wrote:
>>> > > Rex, Sound fine I will look for you around noon. Call me when you 
>>>get
>>> > >closer at 314-960-3226. I get coverage at about 85% of the lake. If 
>>>we
>>> > >fail to connect you can get me on the VHF - Hail Ruba. The marina 
>>>does
>>> >not
>>> > >have a VHF but There will be many sailors around the marina and any > 
>>> >one
>>> >of
>>> > >them would be glad to let you squwalk me up. Bob
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > >From: Charles Henthorn
>>> > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>> > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>> > > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22
>>> > > >Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 11:37:19 -0700 (PDT)
>>> > > >
>>> > > >Bob:
>>> > > > Current plan (subject to change if weather goofs us up) is to 
>>>leave
>>> > > >here about 8:00 a.m. Indiana time (which I think is 7:00 your 
>>>time),
>>> >grab
>>> > > >something to eat on the way, and hope to get there some time 
>>>between
>>> > >11:00
>>> > > >and 12:00 your time. On assumption that this plan works for you,
>>>we'll
>>> > > >want to return in time to get home by nightfall which means we'd
>>> >probably
>>> > > >need to head back no later than 4 p.m. your time. We need not spend
>>>all
>>> > > >that time on or around the boat so however it works out the best 
>>>for
>>> >you
>>> > > >and the student will be OK. Hopefully this gives you some > > 
>>> >flexibility
>>> >to
>>> > > >work out something with (him)(her). I don't know what you need to
>>> > > >accomplish with the student but we could even travel along with you
>>> > >during
>>> > > >the lesson unless too distracting --- however, I've talked to Don > 
>>> > >(my
>>> > > >buddy) and we have agreed that if we go along during the lesson 
>>>that
>>> > > >neither of us want to be the MOB in case that's one of the lessons
>>> >being
>>> > > >taught.
>>> > > > Rex
>>> > > >
>>> > > >Bob Weber wrote:
>>> > > > Rex, I got you down for Saturday - I may try to squeze in a 
>>>student
>>>in
>>> > > >the
>>> > > >morning or afternoon ( we got partially weathered out yesterday ).
>>>Let
>>> >me
>>> > > >know if anything changes. Bob
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > >From: Charles Henthorn
>>> > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>> > > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>> > > > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22
>>> > > > >Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 06:33:52 -0700 (PDT)
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >Bob:
>>> > > > > Still have you on the calendar for Saturday if that still works
>>>for
>>> > > > >you. The Friday night run sounds like fun but the Admiral has > > 
>>> > >plans
>>> >for
>>> > > >me
>>> > > > >Friday nite.
>>> > > > > I'll check the wind for Saturday mid-week in case it's not going
>>>to
>>> > > > >be a good day.
>>> > > > > If you don't mind, I've asked a good friend of mine to make the
>>>trip
>>> > > > >with me to avoid traveling alone. He owns a 23' Seaward that I've
>>> > >sailed
>>> > > > >and enjoy. I've notice General Boat has a link to Seaward on its
>>> > > > >website---do you know the connection?
>>> > > > > Rex
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >Bob Weber wrote:
>>> > > > > Rex, I got you down for the 13th. Hey it is a full moon. If I 
>>>get
>>> >the
>>> > > > >admirals approval I may go out there Friday evening and get some
>>> >night
>>> > > > >sailing in. Short of a monsoon I will plan to be there. The > > > 
>>> >website
>>> >for
>>> > > > >the marina is http://www.tradewindsmarina.net/ There is 
>>>directions
>>> >from
>>> > > > >I-70 and I-55 which is what I guess you will be using. Glad we > 
>>> > > >were
>>> > >able
>>> > > >to
>>> > > > >find a date - hopefully mother nature gives a good day to take 
>>>the
>>> >R-22
>>> > > >thu
>>> > > > >her paces. Drop me a note if anything changes or if you decide to
>>> >stay
>>> > > >the
>>> > > > >night. Bob
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > >From: Charles Henthorn
>>> > > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>> > > > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>> > > > > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22
>>> > > > > >Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 14:57:39 -0700 (PDT)
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >Bob:
>>> > > > > > Sat 5/13 might work for me if it works for you and the 
>>>forecast
>>> >next
>>> > > > > >week is favorable. Late morning would be good because I might > 
>>> > > > >try
>>> >to
>>> > >do
>>> > > > > >it in one day --- leave early and head back early afternoon 
>>>(you
>>> >know
>>> > > > >I've
>>> > > > > >got to get back for "Admiral's Day" on Sunday). On assumption 
>>>we
>>> >can
>>> > > > > >eventually agree on a time, can you give me more detail on how 
>>> > > > > >to
>>> >get
>>> > > > >there
>>> > > > > >from the Interstate?
>>> > > > > > Rex
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >Bob Weber wrote:
>>> > > > > > Rex, I am a 9:00 - 5:00er M-F charged with the important task 
>>> > > > > > of
>>> > > >selling
>>> > > > > >A-B
>>> > > > > >products to the people of St. Louis. Taking off in the near
>>>future
>>> > >will
>>> > > > >be
>>> > > > > >difficult since we are short handed for the next month. Take a
>>>look
>>> > >at
>>> > > > >the
>>> > > > > >19th or another weekend day and lemme know. Bob
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >From: Charles Henthorn
>>> > > > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>> > > > > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>> > > > > > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22
>>> > > > > > >Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 13:51:39 -0700 (PDT)
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >Bob:
>>> > > > > > > Thanks for the hospitality. I'm checking schedules now. Are
>>>you
>>> > > > > > >typically busy during the week too? As I indicated, Fridays > 
>>> > > > > >and
>>> > > >Mondays
>>> > > > > > >could work for me if planned in advance --- for example I
>>> > >potentially
>>> > > > > >could
>>> > > > > > >take off Fri 12th or Mon 15th if everything works right. I
>>> > >understand
>>> > > > > > >whatever we plan --- Mother Nature always has the last word > 
>>> > > > > >but
>>> > > >several
>>> > > > > > >websites will give a wind forecast about 3 days in advance.
>>> > > > > > > Stan has agreed to hold a boat for me until I can check out
>>>the
>>> > > > > > >Rhodes in person but, in good faith, I feel compelled to > > 
>>> > > > >either
>>> > > >pursue
>>> > > > > >his
>>> > > > > > >boat or let him deal with others as soon as I can.
>>> > > > > > >Rex
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >Bob Weber wrote:
>>> > > > > > > Rex, I will be instructing on Sunday May 7th. I am trying to
>>> > > >negotiate
>>> > > > > > >with
>>> > > > > > >the admiral to go out to the lake after a famiily commitment
>>> > >Saturday
>>> > > > > > >afternoon. So I may be out there with the family Saturday
>>>evening
>>> >-
>>> > > > >very
>>> > > > > > >weather dependent. The following two weekends are open. I 
>>>have
>>>a
>>> > > >class
>>> > > > > > >scheduled for May 19 but have no deposits yet. If no interest
>>>by
>>> > >May
>>> > > >9
>>> > > > >I
>>> > > > > > >will cancel the cabins I had reserved. I can hold on to one 
>>>if
>>> >you
>>> > > >like
>>> > > > > > >that weekend and want to stay overnight. Let me know. Bob > > 
>>> > > > >Weber
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > >From: Charles Henthorn
>>> > > > > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>> > > > > > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>> > > > > > > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22
>>> > > > > > > >Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 20:23:11 -0700 (PDT)
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > >Bob:
>>> > > > > > > > I think I would like to take you up on your offer to give 
>>> > > > > > > > me
>>>a
>>> > > >ride
>>> > > > > > > >in your Rhodes. I checked your schedules & it would appear
>>>that
>>> >I
>>> > > > >need
>>> > > > > >to
>>> > > > > > > >ask you what, if any, dates are available for me to head > 
>>> > > > > > >over
>>> >in
>>> > > >your
>>> > > > > > > >direction after May 7 ---- I'm still working full-time (Mon
>>>--
>>> > >Fri)
>>> > > > >but
>>> > > > > >I
>>> > > > > > > >preparing to retire soon and could, if necessary, take off 
>>> > > > > > > >on
>>>a
>>> > > > >Friday
>>> > > > > >or
>>> > > > > > >a
>>> > > > > > > >Monday if weekends are bad for you.
>>> > > > > > > > Rex
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > >Bob Weber wrote:
>>> > > > > > > > Rex, I have a R-22 in the water and ready to sail in > > > 
>>> > > > > Carlyle
>>> >IL.
>>> > > > >About
>>> > > > > >4
>>> > > > > > > >hour drive from you. There is another person who has a boat
>>> >near
>>> > > > > >Michigan
>>> > > > > > > >City but he is probably not in the water yet. If you decide
>>>to
>>> > >make
>>> > > > >the
>>> > > > > > > >trek to Carlyle there is cheap lodging near the marina. Let
>>>me
>>> > > >know.
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > >Bob Weber
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > >From: Charles Henthorn
>>> > > > > > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>> > > > > > > > >To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> > > > > > > > >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22
>>> > > > > > > > >Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 12:11:02 -0800 (PST)
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > TO: Midwest owners
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > I'm in the market for a sailboat and interested in 
>>>seeing
>>>a
>>> > > > >Rhodes22
>>> > > > > > >'in
>>> > > > > > > > >the flesh' having read the website. I've been in contact
>>>with
>>> > > >Stan
>>> > > > >at
>>> > > > > > > > >General Boats who suggested that I post my name and > > > 
>>> > > > > >address
>>> >to
>>> > > >see
>>> > > > >if
>>> > > > > > > >there
>>> > > > > > > > >is someone within a reasonable driving distance of my
>>> >location
>>> > > >that
>>> > > > > > >might
>>> > > > > > > > >have one they would be willing to show me as I continue
>>>with
>>> >my
>>> > > > > > >research.
>>> > > > > > > > >Is there a Rhodes22 within the environs of Crawfordsville
>>> > >Indiana
>>> > > > > > >(about
>>> > > > > > > >45
>>> > > > > > > > >mi north&west of Indianapolis) (30 mi south of Lafayette
>>> >IN)(60
>>> > > >mi
>>> > > > > >east
>>> > > > > > > >of
>>> > > > > > > > >Champagne-Urbana IL) that the owner might make available
>>>for
>>> >me
>>> > > >to
>>> > > > > >see
>>> > > > > > > >and
>>> > > > > > > > >get a feel for what a Rhodes22 is all about?
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > Rex Henthorn
>>> > > > > > > > > rexh at sbcglobal.net
>>> > > > > > > > >
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