[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22

Mon May 22 16:42:23 EDT 2006

Bob:  I like the sun cover idea...have not seen that.  Thanks!

    George

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Weber" <ruba1811 at hotmail.com>
To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22

> George, no recommendations on a loft but I am starting to see a lot of 
> head sails that do not have the sun cover sewm into the leach/foot.  When 
> parked there is a sleeve which is hoisted up over the furled headsail to 
> protect it from the sun.  That is probably the direction I will go when 
> the time comes. Bob
>
>
>>From: "George Carpenter" <geocarp3 at mchsi.com>
>>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22
>>Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:04:07 -0500
>>
>>Bob:  I'm hitch hiking on your message to Rex about the genoa. I received 
>>my '91 recycled Rhodes from Stan last year and LOVE it. I did however, 
>>choose the Doyle 175 and have found it, as you said, heavy and poorly 
>>shaped in light winds. Since my winds (Iowa) are normally 10-20 I think a 
>>155 would work quite fine. Do you have any recommendations of a sail loft?
>>
>>    George Carpenter
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Weber" <ruba1811 at hotmail.com>
>>To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 1:00 PM
>>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22
>>
>>
>>>Rex, Congratulations - The questions have just started most likely.  You 
>>>will be able to catch Don on most points of sail in winds up to 10  and 
>>>you will keep pace with him in higher winds if you have some rail meat. 
>>>What color are you thinking?  The red is sharp.  Keep in touch.  Bob
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: Charles Henthorn <rexh at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22
>>>>Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 10:23:02 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>
>>>>Bob:
>>>>     Thanks again for all your help.  I"ve contacted Stan and we're 
>>>> working on a boat for me.
>>>>   Rex
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Bob Weber <ruba1811 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>   Rex, good questions - here goes
>>>>
>>>>My only
>>>>concern was running with the main because the inner shrouds will not 
>>>>permit
>>>>you
>>>>to really let the main out fully.
>>>>Yes it gets out about 80 degrees before contacting the shroud. I have 
>>>>found
>>>>this to be the case on other keel boats. The boat does not sail well
>>>>straight down wind unless you are winged - but I don't like running 
>>>>anyway
>>>>and will almost always opt for two broad reaches over running. The boom
>>>>angle for broad reaching is not bad.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>So long as your using the genoa, it appears
>>>>the main isn't really going to be driving the boat anyway.
>>>>You are a quick learner.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I forgot to ask the location of the battery.
>>>>It is under the V-bearth - the two battery set up has a second battery 
>>>>under
>>>>the port settee.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The other question I wanted to ask but
>>>>forgot until we were on our way back, the pop-top creates one more 
>>>>potential
>>>>opening to the cabin that might make it more vulnerable to the
>>>>weather----does
>>>>it seal itself pretty well when the boat is unattended and locked up?
>>>>I was getting some slight water incursions right by the door and made 
>>>>cover
>>>>for the doghouse which solved the problem. I need to reseat a port 
>>>>light -
>>>>I don't think it is a design flaw I must have just done a bad job when I 
>>>>did
>>>>it last year.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>What %
>>>>genoa is yours?
>>>>155 - I think it is the perfect combination - recommend it over the 175 
>>>>or
>>>>less sail (unless you are in a real windy area) If you get a choice - I
>>>>think there are better head sails than the doyel. It is heavy and looses
>>>>shape off the wind. That would be an upgrade I would consider if I were 
>>>>to
>>>>do it again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Did you get other foresails --- if so which and would you do it
>>>>the same way?
>>>>If I replace the furler I will get one where i can change headsails 
>>>>without
>>>>dropping the mast. A light 175 or a strom sail would be nice to have.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >From: Charles Henthorn
>>>> >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>> >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22
>>>> >Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 06:56:53 -0700 (PDT)
>>>> >
>>>> >Bob: Not sure this message a week ago last Sunday got delivered.
>>>> >Re-sending it just in case.
>>>> >
>>>> > Bob:
>>>> >
>>>> > Thank you for being such a great host yesterday on Lake Carlyle. Don
>>>> >and I both enjoyed ourselves and learned a lot about your Rhodes22. I 
>>>> >was
>>>> >impressed with its performance and stability. My guess is that those
>>>>winds
>>>> >were gusting to 25 knots at times and it just kept on truckin. It 
>>>> >turns
>>>> >on a dime. My only concern was running with the main because the inner
>>>> >shrouds will not permit you to really let the main out fully. So long
>>>>as
>>>> >your using the genoa, it appears the main isn't really going to be
>>>>driving
>>>> >the boat anyway.
>>>> > I forgot to ask the location of the battery. Despite all the storage
>>>> >facilities I opened, I never saw it. The other question I wanted to 
>>>> >ask
>>>> >but forgot until we were on our way back, the pop-top creates one more
>>>> >potential opening to the cabin that might make it more vulnerable to
>>>>the
>>>> >weather----does it seal itself pretty well when the boat is unattended
>>>>and
>>>> >locked up? What % genoa is yours? Did you get other foresails --- if 
>>>> >so
>>>> >which and would you do it the same way?
>>>> > Thanks again Bob.
>>>> > Rex
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >Bob Weber wrote: Rex, sure give me a call.
>>>> >314-960-3226 BW
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > >From: Charles Henthorn
>>>> > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>> > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>> > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22
>>>> > >Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 19:47:56 -0700 (PDT)
>>>> > >
>>>> > >Bob:
>>>> > > Just checked the weather for your area this afternoon and Saturday
>>>> > >looks like 30% chance of rain and 7 mph winds unless the forecaster
>>>>is
>>>> > >wrong or some system messes up their prediction. To me, 30% is 
>>>> > >better
>>>> >than
>>>> > >70% and this forecast doesn't make a difference but it may to you. >
>>>> >What
>>>> > >time in the morning do you rise on Saturday and would you want me to
>>>>call
>>>> > >just before we load up Sat morning and head your direction (just in
>>>>case
>>>> > >its one of those days that you would prefer not being out).
>>>> > > Rex
>>>> > >
>>>> > >Bob Weber wrote:
>>>> > > Rex, Sound fine I will look for you around noon. Call me when you
>>>>get
>>>> > >closer at 314-960-3226. I get coverage at about 85% of the lake. If
>>>>we
>>>> > >fail to connect you can get me on the VHF - Hail Ruba. The marina
>>>>does
>>>> >not
>>>> > >have a VHF but There will be many sailors around the marina and any 
>>>> > > >
>>>> >one
>>>> >of
>>>> > >them would be glad to let you squwalk me up. Bob
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > >From: Charles Henthorn
>>>> > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>> > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>> > > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22
>>>> > > >Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 11:37:19 -0700 (PDT)
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >Bob:
>>>> > > > Current plan (subject to change if weather goofs us up) is to
>>>>leave
>>>> > > >here about 8:00 a.m. Indiana time (which I think is 7:00 your
>>>>time),
>>>> >grab
>>>> > > >something to eat on the way, and hope to get there some time
>>>>between
>>>> > >11:00
>>>> > > >and 12:00 your time. On assumption that this plan works for you,
>>>>we'll
>>>> > > >want to return in time to get home by nightfall which means we'd
>>>> >probably
>>>> > > >need to head back no later than 4 p.m. your time. We need not 
>>>> > > >spend
>>>>all
>>>> > > >that time on or around the boat so however it works out the best
>>>>for
>>>> >you
>>>> > > >and the student will be OK. Hopefully this gives you some > >
>>>> >flexibility
>>>> >to
>>>> > > >work out something with (him)(her). I don't know what you need to
>>>> > > >accomplish with the student but we could even travel along with 
>>>> > > >you
>>>> > >during
>>>> > > >the lesson unless too distracting --- however, I've talked to Don 
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > >(my
>>>> > > >buddy) and we have agreed that if we go along during the lesson
>>>>that
>>>> > > >neither of us want to be the MOB in case that's one of the lessons
>>>> >being
>>>> > > >taught.
>>>> > > > Rex
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >Bob Weber wrote:
>>>> > > > Rex, I got you down for Saturday - I may try to squeze in a
>>>>student
>>>>in
>>>> > > >the
>>>> > > >morning or afternoon ( we got partially weathered out yesterday ).
>>>>Let
>>>> >me
>>>> > > >know if anything changes. Bob
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > >From: Charles Henthorn
>>>> > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>> > > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>> > > > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22
>>>> > > > >Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 06:33:52 -0700 (PDT)
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >Bob:
>>>> > > > > Still have you on the calendar for Saturday if that still works
>>>>for
>>>> > > > >you. The Friday night run sounds like fun but the Admiral has > 
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > >plans
>>>> >for
>>>> > > >me
>>>> > > > >Friday nite.
>>>> > > > > I'll check the wind for Saturday mid-week in case it's not 
>>>> > > > > going
>>>>to
>>>> > > > >be a good day.
>>>> > > > > If you don't mind, I've asked a good friend of mine to make the
>>>>trip
>>>> > > > >with me to avoid traveling alone. He owns a 23' Seaward that 
>>>> > > > >I've
>>>> > >sailed
>>>> > > > >and enjoy. I've notice General Boat has a link to Seaward on its
>>>> > > > >website---do you know the connection?
>>>> > > > > Rex
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >Bob Weber wrote:
>>>> > > > > Rex, I got you down for the 13th. Hey it is a full moon. If I
>>>>get
>>>> >the
>>>> > > > >admirals approval I may go out there Friday evening and get some
>>>> >night
>>>> > > > >sailing in. Short of a monsoon I will plan to be there. The > > 
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> >website
>>>> >for
>>>> > > > >the marina is http://www.tradewindsmarina.net/ There is
>>>>directions
>>>> >from
>>>> > > > >I-70 and I-55 which is what I guess you will be using. Glad we >
>>>> > > >were
>>>> > >able
>>>> > > >to
>>>> > > > >find a date - hopefully mother nature gives a good day to take
>>>>the
>>>> >R-22
>>>> > > >thu
>>>> > > > >her paces. Drop me a note if anything changes or if you decide 
>>>> > > > >to
>>>> >stay
>>>> > > >the
>>>> > > > >night. Bob
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > > >From: Charles Henthorn
>>>> > > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>> > > > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>> > > > > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22
>>>> > > > > >Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 14:57:39 -0700 (PDT)
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > >Bob:
>>>> > > > > > Sat 5/13 might work for me if it works for you and the
>>>>forecast
>>>> >next
>>>> > > > > >week is favorable. Late morning would be good because I might 
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > >try
>>>> >to
>>>> > >do
>>>> > > > > >it in one day --- leave early and head back early afternoon
>>>>(you
>>>> >know
>>>> > > > >I've
>>>> > > > > >got to get back for "Admiral's Day" on Sunday). On assumption
>>>>we
>>>> >can
>>>> > > > > >eventually agree on a time, can you give me more detail on how 
>>>> > > > > >to
>>>> >get
>>>> > > > >there
>>>> > > > > >from the Interstate?
>>>> > > > > > Rex
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > >Bob Weber wrote:
>>>> > > > > > Rex, I am a 9:00 - 5:00er M-F charged with the important task 
>>>> > > > > > of
>>>> > > >selling
>>>> > > > > >A-B
>>>> > > > > >products to the people of St. Louis. Taking off in the near
>>>>future
>>>> > >will
>>>> > > > >be
>>>> > > > > >difficult since we are short handed for the next month. Take a
>>>>look
>>>> > >at
>>>> > > > >the
>>>> > > > > >19th or another weekend day and lemme know. Bob
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > >From: Charles Henthorn
>>>> > > > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>> > > > > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>> > > > > > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22
>>>> > > > > > >Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 13:51:39 -0700 (PDT)
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > >Bob:
>>>> > > > > > > Thanks for the hospitality. I'm checking schedules now. Are
>>>>you
>>>> > > > > > >typically busy during the week too? As I indicated, Fridays 
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > >and
>>>> > > >Mondays
>>>> > > > > > >could work for me if planned in advance --- for example I
>>>> > >potentially
>>>> > > > > >could
>>>> > > > > > >take off Fri 12th or Mon 15th if everything works right. I
>>>> > >understand
>>>> > > > > > >whatever we plan --- Mother Nature always has the last word 
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > >but
>>>> > > >several
>>>> > > > > > >websites will give a wind forecast about 3 days in advance.
>>>> > > > > > > Stan has agreed to hold a boat for me until I can check out
>>>>the
>>>> > > > > > >Rhodes in person but, in good faith, I feel compelled to > >
>>>> > > > >either
>>>> > > >pursue
>>>> > > > > >his
>>>> > > > > > >boat or let him deal with others as soon as I can.
>>>> > > > > > >Rex
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > >Bob Weber wrote:
>>>> > > > > > > Rex, I will be instructing on Sunday May 7th. I am trying 
>>>> > > > > > > to
>>>> > > >negotiate
>>>> > > > > > >with
>>>> > > > > > >the admiral to go out to the lake after a famiily commitment
>>>> > >Saturday
>>>> > > > > > >afternoon. So I may be out there with the family Saturday
>>>>evening
>>>> >-
>>>> > > > >very
>>>> > > > > > >weather dependent. The following two weekends are open. I
>>>>have
>>>>a
>>>> > > >class
>>>> > > > > > >scheduled for May 19 but have no deposits yet. If no 
>>>> > > > > > >interest
>>>>by
>>>> > >May
>>>> > > >9
>>>> > > > >I
>>>> > > > > > >will cancel the cabins I had reserved. I can hold on to one
>>>>if
>>>> >you
>>>> > > >like
>>>> > > > > > >that weekend and want to stay overnight. Let me know. Bob > 
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > >Weber
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > >From: Charles Henthorn
>>>> > > > > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>> > > > > > > >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>> > > > > > > >Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22
>>>> > > > > > > >Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 20:23:11 -0700 (PDT)
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > >Bob:
>>>> > > > > > > > I think I would like to take you up on your offer to give 
>>>> > > > > > > > me
>>>>a
>>>> > > >ride
>>>> > > > > > > >in your Rhodes. I checked your schedules & it would appear
>>>>that
>>>> >I
>>>> > > > >need
>>>> > > > > >to
>>>> > > > > > > >ask you what, if any, dates are available for me to head >
>>>> > > > > > >over
>>>> >in
>>>> > > >your
>>>> > > > > > > >direction after May 7 ---- I'm still working full-time 
>>>> > > > > > > >(Mon
>>>>--
>>>> > >Fri)
>>>> > > > >but
>>>> > > > > >I
>>>> > > > > > > >preparing to retire soon and could, if necessary, take off 
>>>> > > > > > > >on
>>>>a
>>>> > > > >Friday
>>>> > > > > >or
>>>> > > > > > >a
>>>> > > > > > > >Monday if weekends are bad for you.
>>>> > > > > > > > Rex
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > >Bob Weber wrote:
>>>> > > > > > > > Rex, I have a R-22 in the water and ready to sail in > > 
>>>> > > > > > > >  >
>>>> > > > > Carlyle
>>>> >IL.
>>>> > > > >About
>>>> > > > > >4
>>>> > > > > > > >hour drive from you. There is another person who has a 
>>>> > > > > > > >boat
>>>> >near
>>>> > > > > >Michigan
>>>> > > > > > > >City but he is probably not in the water yet. If you 
>>>> > > > > > > >decide
>>>>to
>>>> > >make
>>>> > > > >the
>>>> > > > > > > >trek to Carlyle there is cheap lodging near the marina. 
>>>> > > > > > > >Let
>>>>me
>>>> > > >know.
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > >Bob Weber
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > >From: Charles Henthorn
>>>> > > > > > > > >Reply-To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>> > > > > > > > >To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>> > > > > > > > >Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22
>>>> > > > > > > > >Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 12:11:02 -0800 (PST)
>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > TO: Midwest owners
>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > I'm in the market for a sailboat and interested in
>>>>seeing
>>>>a
>>>> > > > >Rhodes22
>>>> > > > > > >'in
>>>> > > > > > > > >the flesh' having read the website. I've been in contact
>>>>with
>>>> > > >Stan
>>>> > > > >at
>>>> > > > > > > > >General Boats who suggested that I post my name and > > 
>>>> > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > >address
>>>> >to
>>>> > > >see
>>>> > > > >if
>>>> > > > > > > >there
>>>> > > > > > > > >is someone within a reasonable driving distance of my
>>>> >location
>>>> > > >that
>>>> > > > > > >might
>>>> > > > > > > > >have one they would be willing to show me as I continue
>>>>with
>>>> >my
>>>> > > > > > >research.
>>>> > > > > > > > >Is there a Rhodes22 within the environs of 
>>>> > > > > > > > >Crawfordsville
>>>> > >Indiana
>>>> > > > > > >(about
>>>> > > > > > > >45
>>>> > > > > > > > >mi north&west of Indianapolis) (30 mi south of Lafayette
>>>> >IN)(60
>>>> > > >mi
>>>> > > > > >east
>>>> > > > > > > >of
>>>> > > > > > > > >Champagne-Urbana IL) that the owner might make available
>>>>for
>>>> >me
>>>> > > >to
>>>> > > > > >see
>>>> > > > > > > >and
>>>> > > > > > > > >get a feel for what a Rhodes22 is all about?
>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > Rex Henthorn
>>>> > > > > > > > > rexh at sbcglobal.net
>>>> > > > > > > > >
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