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[Bill Effros]

The big problem there is that she doesn't have any engines--just props.

Bill Effros

john Belanger wrote:
> not likely repairing her where she sits. personally i would not have put her under way by her own engines till clear of the berth.  20/20 hindsight. 
>
> Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:  John,
>
> I'm not an expert on this, just read the news. As I remember it, they 
> removed a lot of ballast, dredged a channel, emptied water tanks, and 
> tried the move on one of the highest tides of the year. I think she has 
> been there for 24 years. I believe she moved 15 feet and a propeller 
> got stuck in the muck. They are now talking about repairing her where 
> she sits. Google for more info.
>
> Bill Effros
>
> john Belanger wrote:
>   
>> is she too heavy? may have to remove some weight. seems she would be light since shes a museum, not fighting weight and filled with fuel, planes, and ordinance. if they dredge next to her she should come loose. not much tide rise/fall where she is located. how long has she been in that berth?
>>
>> Bill Effros wrote: Intrepid Stuck, Move Scrubbed for Now
>>
>>
>>
>> Nov 6, 11:48 AM (ET)
>>
>> By PAT MILTON
>>
>> (AP) Tugboats work to free the USS (CV-11) from its muddy footing at 
>> Pier 86 on the west side...
>> Full Image 
>> (http://apnews.excite.com/image/20061106/USS_INTREPID.sff_NYJD101_20061106105333.html?date=20061106&docid=D8L7MEO81)
>>
>> NEW YORK (AP) - The legendary aircraft carrier USS Intrepid got stuck in 
>> the deep Hudson River mud Monday as powerful tugboats fought to pull it 
>> free to tow the floating museum downriver for a $60 million overhaul.
>>
>> The mission was scrubbed for the day at around 10:30 a.m. as the tide 
>> went down, said Dan Bender, a Coast Guard spokesman. There was no 
>> immediate word when the effort would resume.
>>
>> After 24 years at the same pier on West Side, the World War II warship 
>> began inching backward out of its berth, but moved only about 15 feet 
>> before its giant propellers jammed in the thick mud. The decommissioned 
>> war ship no longer has engines of its own.
>>
>> "We knew it was not going to come out like a cruise ship," said Matt 
>> Woods, the Intrepid Sea, Air & Space Museum's vice president for operations.
>>
>>
>>
>> Six tugboats had strained to move the giant ship.
>>
>>
>> "We were able to move her 15 feet, and then she came to a halt. We tried 
>> to add more power with another tugboat but we couldn't wiggle her free," 
>> said Jeffrey McAllister, the chief pilot of the tugboat operation.
>>
>> "We were missing our open window. We had to give up because the tides 
>> were going down," he added. "She was moving, we were hopeful, she 
>> started to creep along but then she stopped."
>>
>> "It was very disappointing," said McAllister.
>>
>> Monday's departure was timed to take advantage of the yearly high tide 
>> so the tugs could pull the 27,000-ton ship out of the slip where it has 
>> rested in up to 17 feet of mud. Removal of 600 tons of water from the 
>> Intrepid's ballast tanks gave the ship added buoyancy, and dredges 
>> removed 15,000 cubic yards of mud to create a channel from dockside to 
>> deeper water.
>>
>>
>>
>> The carrier's $60 million refurbishment, which is expected to take up to 
>> 2 years, will include opening up more interior spaces to the public, 
>> upgrading its exhibits and a bow-to-stern paint job in naval haze-gray. 
>> The pier will also be completely rebuilt in the Intrepid's absence. The 
>> city is contributing $17 million, the state $5 million, the $36 
>> million, plus $2 million in private funds.
>>
>>
>>
>> Just before the ceremony, officials expressed optimism about being able 
>> to move the aircraft carrier.
>>
>> "The people doing this have moved a thousand ships bigger than the 
>> Intrepid," Intrepid president Bill White said earlier. "A ship that 
>> survived five kamikaze attacks is going to make it five miles down river."
>>
>> Elected officials, who served on the Intrepid and others had waited on 
>> the flight deck for the beginning of the five miles down the river to a 
>> dry dock in Bayonne, N.J. Helicopters flew overhead; New York Police 
>> Department blue-and-white power boats, boats and a Coast Guard cutter 
>> were on hand to accompany the aircraft carrier.
>>
>> "The Intrepid stands for everything we believe in ... our freedom and 
>> our values," Sen. said at the sendoff ceremony before the tugs began 
>> their work.
>>
>> Two former mayors, Edward Koch and David Dinkins, cast off the final 
>> mooring lines at the order of 80-year-old retired Rear Adm. J. Lloyd 
>> "Doc" Abbot Jr., who served two years as Intrepid's skipper in 1960-62 
>> and has been named honorary commander for the day.
>>
>> "It was the best job I ever had," Abbot said, standing once again on the 
>> ship's deck. "Intrepid had a soul of her own. How can a hunk of iron 
>> have a soul, you may ask. But I loved her. She kept me safe and at times 
>> I kept her safe."
>>
>> The Intrepid serves as a living memorial to the arms services, a tourist 
>> attraction that draws hundreds of thousands people a year and, if the 
>> need arises, will become as an emergency operation center for city and 
>> federal authorities. The FBI used it as an operation center after the 
>> Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
>>
>>
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