[Rhodes22-list] Cell Phone Triangulation

Bill Effros bill at effros.com
Fri Nov 24 01:00:57 EST 2006


Joe,

It's really not me or my position I'm worried about.  It's what others 
will do if I should fall overboard.

Do you give people a safety briefing when they come on board?

Do you teach them how to hail on a marine radio?  Do they know where the 
GPS is, or how to read coordinates off it?  Do they know what channel 
they are supposed to hail on?  Do they know where the talk button is?  
Or how to use it?

They all know exactly how to use their cell phones, and most of them 
know exactly where they are.  My guess is that calling 911 where I sail 
would get anyone a faster response than jumping onto a frequency and 
yelling "Mayday" (kids do this 100s of times each summer).  (Greenwich 
has a police boat.)

Remember that in the time it took you to read this, even on our slow 
little sail boats, people on the boat keep moving farther and farther 
away from the person who falls over board.  A lot of people drown every 
year in LIS--it's serious water.  I read the same magazines you read, 
and I know what they say--but if my life is on the line I might be 
better off if the people on my boat hop onto their cell phones instead 
of trying to navigate the idiosyncrasies of marine radios.

Bill Effros

Joseph Hadzima wrote:
> Regardless of whether or not triangulation is working, you
> should always be able to give your aprox position during
> your first transmission! 
>
> The advantage of radio over cell phone is that others may
> also be listening.  Perhaps some that can reach you sooner
> than the USCG!
>
> just a thought.
>
>
>
> --- Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> Cell phone companies were supposed to provide
>> triangulation from their 
>> towers so that any cell phone could be located in case of
>> emergency.  
>> Anyone know the status of that?
>>
>> Can you still dial "CG" from your cell phone and get the
>> Coast Guard?
>>
>> On LIS you've got a much better chance of rescue on your
>> cell phone than 
>> your marine radio because of all the clutter on the
>> channels.  We use 
>> marine radios to hail the head cleaning boats, request
>> pick ups from 
>> yacht clubs, and to find out where the fish are biting.
>>
>> Bill Effros
>>
>> Arthur H. Czerwonky wrote:
>>     
>>> Nan,
>>> All good suggestions, especially the original one that
>>>       
>> you seriously consider the Rhodes 22 for your boat. 
>> Hands down a superb choice.  On the VHF, if you do not
>> have one already, I'd choose the one with emergency GPS
>> position transmission capability, and a handheld GPS as a
>> minimum.  Lake or open water, I'd get a depth reader of
>> some kind.  Stan can make integral with the hull, sealed
>> properly, and I wouldn't miss that.  The boat will
>> probably have Stan's engine hoist.  Saves alot of wear
>> and tear on you, especially if you opt for 8 or 9.9, 4
>> stroke - a heavy beast!
>>     
>>> Art
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> From: Charles Henthorn <rexh at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> Sent: Nov 21, 2006 12:01 PM
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>>>>         
>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>     
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Considering a Recycled
>>>>         
>> R22
>>     
>>>> Hi Nan:
>>>>     Welcome to the list.  I got my recycled 1988 last
>>>>         
>> spring and had to make the same decisions.  I elected to
>> get the antenna and provide a VHF for installation and a
>> depth gauge.  In contrast to Rummy, the wind in the sails
>> are the only music I need.  
>>     
>>>>  Rex 
>>>>
>>>> Nan Bailey <nan at npbailey.com> wrote:
>>>>  Hi,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am in touch with Stan @ General Boats to purchase a
>>>>         
>> recycled boat and
>>     
>>>> would be interested in hearing some feedback. Are
>>>>         
>> there any features
>>     
>>>> that are "must have"? I thought I would want
>>>>         
>> life-lines but Stan is
>>     
>>>> suggesting I reconsider. I am assuming I will have a
>>>>         
>> depth-finder and
>>     
>>>> compass put in...make sense? Other thoughts?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am on the Long Island Sound and hope to use it for
>>>>         
>> day sails and some
>>     
>>>> overnights with my 10/15 yr old children & friends.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Nan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nan P Bailey, MBA, CFP(r), AIF(r)
>>>>
>>>> 1875 Palmer Ave, Ste 206
>>>>
>>>> Larchmont, NY 10538
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> tel. 914.834.9105
>>>>
>>>> fax 914.834.6376
>>>>
>>>> www.npbailey.com 
>>>>
>>>> nan at npbailey.com
>>>>
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