[Rhodes22-list] Ernesto does a number on hatch cover

Tue Sep 5 12:01:48 EDT 2006

When preparing for a major storm or hurricane, the safest place for the R22
may indeed be on the trailer.  Please do not forget to SECURE THE BOAT to
the trailer and the trailer to something.  Flooding and winds can remove the
boat from the trailer or cause the trailer to roll or float away, especially
if the boat is tied to it.  The most important thing to remember is that you
cannot rely on gravity to secure items.

Mike
s/v Shanghai'd Summer

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rory Orkin" <roryorkin at earthlink.net>
To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Ernesto does a number on hatch cover

>
>  As I said in an earlier post, I did not notice a tie down cleat for the
pop
> top.. I will check again when it stops raining. I thought the pop top
locked
> in the down position.
> As far as a storm surge is concerned.. I would pull the boat out and put
it
> on the trailer if I had any advance notice
> Isabelle did a job on us here too and most of the docks here were blown
> apart by storm surge so I would need to get it off of the lift.
> Nothing about this storm required that degree of preperation. If the pop
top
> had been secured.. Nothing would have been damaged.
> We have winds of 35 -45 mph constantly. I would spend my life rigging the
> boat. I would never attempt to keep a boat on a lift if it were in
> danger of floating off.  Trying to secure it would result in the bottom of
> the hull slamming against the bunks as the waves ran through.
>
>
> Saroj Gilbert wrote:
> >
> > Rory, right before Hurricane Isabel hit in Sept 2003, someone posted a
URL
> > (if I remember correctly... or possibly copied it into the email) on how
> > to
> > prepare a boat for a hurricane... it is worth revisiting.  It helped me
a
> > lot in my preparation for Isabel... Previously I had been on a Moorings
> > charter while sailing around Grenada when a tropical storm was
predicted;
> > so
> > I had already been through the drill... you might want to check it
out...
> > the most notable thing I noticed when I saw your posted picture was that
> > your boat was not well-prepared... the boom should have been removed;
the
> > mast lowered; all "loose" items from topside removed or well-tied down.
> >
> > My Rhodes is much older than yours and was refurbished much earlier.  I
> > have
> > a different setup apparently for my poptop... it is locked into the
> > lifting
> > bars so I can't see how it could be pulled up by the wind (at least
> > without
> > pulling out the lift bars themselves)... however had your mast been down
> > it
> > seems it would have prevented the poptop from being lifted up.
> >
> > My Rhodes went through Isabel (which was on a much bigger scale) with no
> > damage at all.  Nor did I have any damage during Ernesto which hit
pretty
> > hard here in Hampton Roads (although nothing like Isabel).
> >
> > In the Granada situation, we were on a boat in which the mast couldn't
be
> > lowered (a much larger boat); however all lines were removed where
> > possible
> > and well-secured; the sails removed; the boom detached from the topping
> > lift
> > and very well secured.
> >
> > Question: have you thought through what would happen if a storm surge
> > "floated" your boat off the boat lift? Again, in Isabel, boats that were
> > too
> > tightly tied down actually lifted the pilings out causing a lot of
damage
> > to
> > the docks and other boats as the boats in question were pushed into the
> > others.  I don't know anything about boat lifts, but the thought
occurred
> > to
> > me.
> >
> > The only thing one knows for sure about storms is that they are
> > unpredictable... neither Ernesto or Isabel, for that matter, were
expected
> > to be as severe as they turned out to be in this area.  Its always a
crap
> > shoot... I've spent a lot of time preparing for storms that totally
passed
> > us by too.
> >
> > Saroj
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Rory Orkin" <roryorkin at earthlink.net>
> > To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 7:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Ernesto does a number on hatch cover
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Got it.. Guess you are right..
> >> I did not notice the cleat on the step .. Perhaps it is there..
> >> What I found it that the white piece of plastic that engages the lock
was
> >> actually broken in two.. I don't know if this happined first as a
result
> >> of
> >> the wind , then the pop top was lifted when the wind could get into the
> >> cabin or if it fractured as a result of the beating the entire pop top
> >> assembly took.
> >>
> >>
> >> Gregg J. MacMillan-2 wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Doesn't look like the jpg went thru.
> >>>
> >>> Here's a link to it...
> >>>
> >>> http://macgra.com/poptop.jpg
> >>>
> >>>>Rory--
> >>>>
> >>>>At first I thought you were probably missing two holes. My 1986 has
> >>>>two holes to lock the pop top in the down position. Apparently, at
> >>>>some point Stan must have decided to eliminate those two holes.
> >>>>Attached is a description from the newer owners manual how he
> >>>>suggests locking the pop top on the newer models. I suspect when
> >>>>yours was reconditioned, you got the new hardware.
> >>>>
> >>>>--Gregg
> >>>>
> >>>>At 3:45 PM -0700 9/4/06, Rory Orkin wrote:
> >>>>>What I discovered however is that it seems that there is no way for
> that
> >> pop
> >>>>>top to be held down..
> >>>>>Isn't there supposed to be a hole in the inner pop top support that
> >>>>>locks
> >>>>>the pop top when closed.
> >>>>>This is a recon 2000 boat just purchased this year.. The only holes I
> >> have
> >>>>>are for locking in up position.. Is this a mfg flaw ??
> >>>>>I never realized it but as this is set up now , one could simply lift
> >>>>>the
> >>>>>entire pop top up.. No lock other than on the sliding part.. which
only
> >>>>>locks the sliding part. What am I missing ??
> >>>>>                                    Rory
> >>>>
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