[Rhodes22-list] Running Out of Oil?

3drecon at comcast.net 3drecon at comcast.net
Thu Sep 28 18:42:59 EDT 2006


http://www.townhall.com/columnists/WalterEWilliams/2006/07/19/running_out_of_oil

Philip

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From: 3drecon at comcast.net 

> Here is another. 
> 
> http://www.townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowell/2006/05/30/preserving_a_vision 
> 
> Philip 
> 
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> From: Slim 
> 
> > Hey Brad--Happy Birthday!! I'll hoist one in your name. As for being in 
> > touch with reality--I've never made such a claim. It's that I'm 
> > under-employed right now and I've had too much time on my hands and I like 
> > pushing y'all's buttons. But I've spewed enough of my blather on this topic 
> > for now. (I can hear the cheers.) 
> > 
> > Slim 
> > 
> > On 9/28/06 12:10 PM, "Brad Haslett" wrote: 
> > 
> > > Slim, 
> > > 
> > > Don't know anyone from Selma but Condi grew up nearby. She actually 
> > > *knew*the girls who were killed in the church bombing (as opposed to 
> > > the serial 
> > > liar Clinton who never witnessed such a thing, despite his "pain of 
> > > remembering"). Condi did OK. Slim, I like you but you are out of touch 
> > > with reality sometimes. Come live with me in Memphis for a while and then 
> > > "preach". 
> > > 
> > > Today is my birthday, sing "Southern Man" in my honor. Even though I'm from 
> > > the Midwest, everyone knows what racists us 'grit boys' are. 
> > > 
> > > Brad 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 9/28/06, Slim wrote: 
> > >> 
> > >> Philip, 
> > >> 
> > >> You and Herb can certainly stand tall and be proud of your accomplishments 
> > >> in the face of adversity and challenge. But when you say: 
> > >>>> we all have the opportunity to achieve the zenith of our abilities. 
> > >> something sticks in my craw. Do you remember the civil rights struggle in 
> > >> the 60s? Find a man from Selma, Ala and ask him if he thinks he was given 
> > >> ample opportunity then and if it's much better now. 
> > >> 
> > >> Slim 
> > >> 
> > >> On 9/28/06 8:22 AM, "3drecon at comcast.net" <3drecon at comcast.net> wrote: 
> > >> 
> > >>> Herb, 
> > >>> I am sort of white, Mediteranian. My parents divorced when I was 
> > >> 10. My 
> > >>> dad, though kind at heart, was not very responsible and did only what 
> > >> the 
> > >>> court ordered him to do (never missed a payment) but there were no 
> > >> fishing 
> > >>> trips, camping or anythnng like that. 
> > >>> My younger brother got his Eagle Scout without any family adult 
> > >>> participation and is on schedule to retire at 52 years old (and I mean 
> > >>> retire). He, like I have always worked at least two jobs (unless I was 
> > >> on 
> > >>> active duty; officers are generally prohibited from moonlighting). We 
> > >> put 
> > >>> ourselves through college working the whole time. I am in the Army 
> > >> (again) 
> > >>> until I retire, then back to the civilian job. I started out as a PVT 1 
> > >> in 
> > >>> the USMC and am now a Lieutenant Colonel in the Army. None of this 
> > >> would have 
> > >>> been possible without an education. An education I paid for working, 
> > >> student 
> > >>> loans (which I paid back in full) and Vietnam era GI Bill. My brother 
> > >> didn't 
> > >>> have the GI bill but still paid for his education himself. 
> > >>> My mother worked her ass off to keep us in clothes, under a roof (her 
> > >>> house) and fed while finishing her B.S. 
> > >>> You make your own luck (when opportunity meets preparedness). Make 
> > >> your 
> > >>> choices and play it out. 
> > >>> I am now helping my older son through the American Academy of 
> > >> Dramatic Arts 
> > >>> (he has been offered a part in Pirates of the Carribean III). My 
> > >> younger son 
> > >>> is in private school. 
> > >>> 
> > >>> Philip 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> > >>> From: "Herb Parsons" 
> > >>> 
> > >>>> Phillip, 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Interesting the diversity of responses Slim's cynical viewpoint 
> > >>>> generated. 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> My mother never finished high school. We were what most would call 
> > >>>> "poor white trash", moving all over the country depending on who her 
> > >>>> husband was. 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> She finally bought a house about 2 years after my wife and I got 
> > >>>> married (12 years ago). 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> I did a bit better. Make about 90k a year, and even though i was an 
> > >>>> adult before I bought my first house, it was before my kids were grown. 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> My first married daughter and her fiancé bought their house 3 months 
> > >>>> before their wedding. 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> I'm sure though, that it has little to do with working hard to improve 
> > >>>> your lot, and that of your children's, and more to do with living in a 
> > >>>> white man's world. 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Yeah, sure of it... 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Herb Parsons 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> S/V O'Jure 
> > >>>> 1976 O'Day 25 
> > >>>> Lake Grapevine, N TX 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> S/V Reve de Papa 
> > >>>> 1971 Coronado 35 
> > >>>> Lake Pontchartrain, Louisiana Coast 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>>>>> 3drecon at comcast.net 9/27/2006 4:09:30 pm >>> 
> > >>>> Slim, 
> > >>>> Your comments are about as extremist as they come. Life isn't a 
> > >>>> level playing field. We all have our hurdles and it is up to each of us 
> > >>>> to cross them. The promise of this country isn't equal outcome, rather, 
> > >>>> we all have the opportunity to achieve the zenith of our abilities. 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Philip 
> > >>>> Son of immigrants who speak foreign languages (and English) but did 
> > >>>> alright anyway! 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> > >>>> From: Slim 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>>> I'm sorry if anybody is offended by any more measure than I was at 
> > >>>> the first 
> > >>>>> list that Elle posted. Truly, I'm a moderate, not an extremist, but 
> > >>>>> extremist rhetoric from others brings out the beast in me. 
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> That said, white man's guilt or not, you have to admit there are two 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>>> Americas--one for white men and one for everybody else. Not exactly a 
> > >>>> level 
> > >>>>> playing field. 
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> Slim 
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> On 9/27/06 3:15 PM, "Brad Haslett" wrote: 
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>>> Slim, 
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>> I understand the reasoning behind some of your points. That doesn't 
> > >>>> mean I 
> > >>>>>> agree with reasoning, or the points, I just understand the mindset. 
> > >>>> One area 
> > >>>>>> where we most vehemently disagree is the white Anglo comment. I 
> > >>>> didn't 
> > >>>>>> choose to be born white, male, or the son of a frequently 
> > >>>> unemployed 
> > >>>>>> construction worker. That was fate, or whatever. I don't owe my 
> > >>>> success, 
> > >>>>>> however modest, to pigmentation or the lack of it. In other words, 
> > >>>> if you 
> > >>>>>> must suffer from white man's guilt, do so, but don't project it on 
> > >>>> me or 
> > >>>>>> anyone else. 
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>> As to the flag, I can wait to sing the National Anthem at the top 
> > >>>> of my 
> > >>>>>> lungs in Beijing in two years with my daughter singing along and my 
> > >>>> wife 
> > >>>>>> holding her hand over her heart. 
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>> Brad 
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>> On 9/27/06, Slim wrote: 
> > >>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>> Yeah, OK, I'd like to add a few too: 
> > >>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>> You might be a TRUE AMERICAN if you continue to support the 
> > >>>> administration 
> > >>>>>>> no matter how many lies are crammed down our throats. 
> > >>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>> You might be a TRUE AMERICAN if you go to church every Sunday and 
> > >>>> pray for 
> > >>>>>>> the destruction of others in the name of God. 
> > >>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>> You might be a TRUE AMERICAN if you think all languages except 
> > >>>> English 
> > >>>>>>> should be banned within our borders. 
> > >>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>> You might be a TRUE AMERICAN if you're a white Anglo. 
> > >>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>> You might be a TRUE AMERICAN if you think only TRUE AMERICANS 
> > >>>> adhere to 
> > >>>>>>> this 
> > >>>>>>> list!! 
> > >>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>> On 9/27/06 8:00 AM, "Hank" wrote: 
> > >>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>> Great email, Elle. I'd only suugest one edit. Add "Remove your 
> > >>>> hat" to 
> > >>>>>>> the 
> > >>>>>>>> part about the National Anthem. That's always been a pet peeve of 
> > >>>> mine 
> > >>>>>>> to 
> > >>>>>>>> see folks at a ball game not take off their hat. 
> > >>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>> On 9/27/06, L. Sailor wrote: 
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> Came across my email this AM. Makes one think about 
> > >>>>>>>>> how those in the middle politically are being 
> > >>>>>>>>> bullied by the ends of the spectrum. 
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> elle 
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> It is time to change from REDNECK humor to TRUE 
> > >>>>>>>>> AMERICAN Humor! Only I don't see it as Humor, but the 
> > >>>>>>>>> correct way to LIVE YOUR LIFE ! If you feel the same, 
> > >>>>>>>>> pass this on to your True American friends. Ya'll 
> > >>>>>>>>> know who ya' are... 
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> You might be a TRUE AMERICAN if: It never occurred to 
> > >>>>>>>>> you to be offended by the phrase, "One nation, under 
> > >>>>>>>>> God." 
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> You might be a TRUE AMERICAN if: You've never 
> > >>>>>>>>> protested about seeing the 10 Commandments posted in 
> > >>>>>>>>> public places. 
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> You might be a TRUE AMERICAN if: You still say 
> > >>>>>>>>> "Christmas" instead of "Winter Festival." 
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> You might be a TRUE AMERICAN if: You bow your head 
> > >>>>>>>>> when someone 
> > >>>>>>>>> prays. 
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> You might be a TRUE AMERICAN if: You stand and place 
> > >>>>>>>>> your hand over your heart when they play the National 
> > >>>>>>>>> Anthem. 
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> You might be a TRUE AMERICAN if: You treat Viet Nam 
> > >>>>>>>>> vets with great respect, and alw ays have. 
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> You might be a TRUE AMERICAN if: You've never burned 
> > >>>>>>>>> an American flag. 
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> You might be a TRUE AMERICAN if: You know what you 
> > >>>>>>>>> believe and you aren't afraid to say so, no matter 
> > >>>>>>>>> who is listening. 
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> You might be a TRUE AMERICAN if: You respect your 
> > >>>>>>>>> elders and expect your kids to do the same. 
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> You might be a TRUE AMERICAN if: You'd give your last 
> > >>>>>>>>> dollar to a friend. 
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> If you got this email from me, it is because I believe 
> > >>>>>>>>> that you, like me, have just enough TRUE AMERICAN in 
> > >>>>>>>>> you to have the same beliefs as those talked about in 
> > >>>>>>>>> this email. This is Excellent, No Matter what you 
> > >>>>>>>>> deem fit to call it. It is our Country, It is our way 
> > >>>>>>>>> of LIFE, and I love it. 
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> God Bless the U S A ! Git 'er done!!!!!!!!!!!! 
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> 
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