[Rhodes22-list] reefing

Sat Feb 17 15:34:18 EST 2007

I didn't mean to SURPRISE her in a capsize, I said to
practice, which should include a little instruction, and
visualization prior to geting into the boat. Any non-keel
boat course teachs this the first day.  Every kayaker
should learn / practice this prior to having to learn it
during an emergency.   Practice prior to an emergency is
agood thing  ... BTW, how offten do people here practice a
crew over board drill?  I hear pilots practice a lot too.

--- Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:

> Don't do it.
> 
> This is the equivalent of throwing people into water to
> teach them to swim.
> 
> Many women don't like sailing near the edge either
> figuratively or 
> literally.  They are not afraid of the water.  They can
> swim.  But they 
> don't like getting too close to the edge.  Pushing them
> over the edge 
> does not help.
> 
> Sail your R-22 by yourself until you are sure you can do
> it before 
> inviting your wife on board.  Initially sail with just
> tiny amounts of 
> sail -- 1/3 of the available main and Jenny.
> 
> Yes, it will look funny, and nobody else does it that way
> (in part 
> because they can't).  But your wife will be able to see
> that you can 
> keep the boat completely under control and dead upright
> under any 
> sailing conditions.  No water has ever entered the
> cockpit of my boat 
> when my wife was on board.
> 
> My son, on the other hand, likes to sit in the leeward
> captain's seat 
> and have me sail so that he can dip his hair in the
> water.  Fine.  But 
> we never do it when my wife is on board.
> 
> Bill Effros
> 
> Joseph Hadzima wrote:
> > Hi Jb
> >
> > I hope I'm not stepping out of bounds here .. but I do
> have
> > one unsolisited suggestion (don't you just hate advice
> when
> > you don't ask fo it).
> >
> > I suggest you rent a little dinghy or Sunfish at a nice
> > lake somewhere. Then you and your first mate go out and
> > practice capsizing.  You gotta get wet once, so you
> don't
> > let the fear make decisions for you with your own boat.
>  
> >
> > The Rhodes may be unsinkable, but I believe Rummy has
> > managed a knock down or two - and can give you the
> details.
> >
> > I was crew on a keel boat when the new skipper did a
> gybe a
> > little too quickly in heavy air and managed to fill the
> > cockpit about 1/2 way with very cold water! 
> >
> > My wife was a little scared at first, but got
> comfotable
> > enough so she likes to go fast these days. She's the
> one
> > that will "burry the rail" if given the chance.
> >
> > Address the fear issues soon (read as practice, and
> take
> > lessons), so you'll have enjoyable sailing for many
> more
> > years.
> >
> > just my $0.02  or is that .002 in Verizon money?
> >
> > --- JbTek <j.bulfer at jbtek.com> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> Ed,
> >> I've only read about reefing. I've been sailing 3
> times,
> >> 2 of those in very
> >> light wind. What got me hooked was one of those times
> was
> >> on a 47' Beneteau
> >> and they let me take the wheel just outside San Diego
> >> harbor. When we caught
> >> a gust of wind you could just feel the power drive you
> >> forward. We heeled
> >> over some & the wife got very nervous. I couldn't tell
> >> you if we were reefed
> >> or not. I can tell you I see the benefits of IMF and I
> >> believe she will
> >> insist on it.
> >>     I know the R22 has lots of features, I would want
> to
> >> know if you could
> >> not have them all, which would take priority. The
> obvious
> >> from where I sit,
> >> IMF & the swivel chairs look comfortable.
> >>
> >> What does a sail weigh? I think Rummy said the mast
> only
> >> weighs 16lbs.
> >>
> >>     Jb
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Tootle" <ekroposki at charter.net>
> >> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 5:10 AM
> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Roller Reefing on Rhodes
> >> Continental?
> >> Luis?JayBulfer?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Luis and Jay:
> >>
> >> One reason why Rhodes 22s are different is that a
> certain
> >> nautical engineer
> >> was always tinkering with the boats as they were being
> >> built.  Could it be
> >> that in 1975 that elusive nautical innovator was
> >> experimenting on what was
> >> to become your boat with the known technology of boom
> >> roller reefing?  Boom
> >> roller reefing does allow battens and weight of sails
> is
> >> maintained lower.
> >> Humm? Tinker, tinker at 4 AM?
> >>
> >> Ed K
> >> Greenville, SC, USA
> >> Addendum for Jay if he is still here:
> >>
> >> âEURoeReefing means reducing the area of a sail
> without
> >> actually changing it for
> >> a smaller sail. Ideally reefing does not only result
> in a
> >> reduced sail area
> >> but also in a lower center of effort from the sails,
> >> reducing the heeling
> >> moment and keeping the boat more upright.âEUR?
> >>
> >> âEURoeIn-boom roller-reefingâEUR? is accomplished 
> âEURoewith a
> >> horizontal foil inside the
> >> boom. This method allows for standard- or full-length
> >> horizontal battens.âEUR?
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailing
> >>
> >> But an earier version of boom reefing had the whole
> boom
> >> turn and wrap the
> >> sail on the outside of the boom. There were wooden
> booms
> >> that could do that.
> >> I would also point out that there are/were rotating
> mast
> >> to achieve reefing.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -- 
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