[Rhodes22-list] An inconvenient reality.

[Geankoplis]

ARRRGH capt'n Brad,
			Its so nice to agree on some things.......like the
Rhodes and of course.........to disagree!

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Chris,

You don't hang out with many current scientists.  Do you?

Brad


On 12/29/06, Geankoplis <napoli68 at charter.net> wrote:
>
> Brad wrote:  The bulk of the 'scientists' are of the same political ilk
> and
> are hardly objective.
>
> Come on Brad, you cannot be a scientist and maintain something that is not
> based on fact.  You can provide a theory (careful, note this word has a
> different meaning in science than in common vernacular, the same as "gas"
> a
> state of matter- and "gas something you put in your car). A theory must be
> based on facts and legitimate data and it must have a predictive
> value.  If
> you have a stock broker do you keep him because he is a political ally or
> do
> you keep him because he consistently predicts which stocks are winners and
> losers?  Saying politics influences 99% of scientist is like saying
> politics
> determines how you fly your plane, and what laws of physics apply to you
> and
> not someone else.  Based on the predictive abilities of the politicians
> who
> denied the existence of global warming "nothing will happen, there will be
> no increase in temps, no increase in weather disruptions, and no change in
> glaciers, v.s. the mainstream scientist who accurately predicted what
> would
> happen.  With the accuracy of their data and technology increasing their
> predictions and models are even better, I'll put my trust in the
> scientist.
> I don't give a damn what their politics are, if the vast majority of
> scientist are in basic agreement then I'll be willing to listen and act.
> You ask what we can do and then offer an absurd suggestion of abandoning
> everything to the radical Muslims. Come on this is America, we can solve
> almost anything if we really want to and work together not to just protect
> our special privileges and not to always expect someone else to give up
> something so we don't have to.
>
> Chris G
> -----Original Message---- have to-
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@
> des22.org] On Behalf Of Brad Haslett
> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 8:25 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] An inconvenient reality.
>
> Rummy,
>
> This sort of thing has been happening for eons.  If a scientist from
> mainstream academia points this out he/she will be booed off the lectern
> because it doesn't fit into the current funding stream.  It may have
> happened due to global warming, or not.  Global warming may be real, or
> not.  If it is real, it may be caused by man or nature. It could be a
> natural cycl-a state  (remember the Ice Age?). The whole issue is so
> clouded
> by the
> political climate that rational discussion of the subject is difficult if
> not impossible.  The bulk of the 'scientists' are of the same political
> ilk
> and are hardly objective.
>
> Let's assume global warming is real, and the cause is mankind.  What to
> do?
> Maybe we can just let the radical Muslims have their way and move the
> whole
> planet back to the 7th century.  There's always the issue of donkey gas to
> deal with but maybe it is easier to handle than the 5.9 liter engine in my
> Dodge pickup.  I dunno, and neither do these "experts".
>
> Perhaps I've hung around educated idiots too much.  I'd be a lot more
> impressed if they could pour piss out of a boot without reading the
> instructions printed on the heel.
>
> Brad
>
>
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