[Rhodes22-list] Laz leakage another reply to Rory
Arthur H. Czerwonky
czerwonky at earthlink.net
Fri Jun 1 07:40:11 EDT 2007
Dave,
Have had difficulty locating the 44qt Rubbermaid. Does it have a stock# or other code you can see? Thx,
Art
-----Original Message-----
>From: David Bradley <dwbrad at gmail.com>
>Sent: May 31, 2007 11:45 PM
>To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Laz leakage another reply to Rory
>
>And per the earlier exchange with Elle, the Rubbermaid 44 qt clear plastic
>container will hold your weight, just make it under the seat toward the
>stern, then when you slide if forward it can't slide back out from beneath
>the seat. I can't imagine I'd want 100 # of sand to come crashing across
>the cockpit if I had the port rails in the water...
>
>Dave
>
>
>On 5/31/07, Rory Orkin <roryorkin at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> And have the additional benefit of being available for traction in snow
>> :-)
>>
>>
>> Bud_On_Rhodes wrote:
>> >
>> > Rory,
>> > two 50# bags of playground sand placed under the starboard cockpit
>> > bench seat (placed forward) will level
>> > your boat out nicely.
>> >
>> > -Bud
>> >
>> > Rory Orkin wrote:
>> >
>> >>I did not think about the beam wise level.. On water , that is harder
>> than
>> >>you might think with the new 4 stroke engine weight and the gas tank on
>> that
>> >>side as well. I underthunk it.. :-)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Todd Tavares wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> All,
>> >>>I haven't taken time to read all of the laz/drain posts, but you guys
>> are
>> >>>way over thinking the problem. A boat that old had 3/4" drain
>> "thru-hull"
>> >>>fittings. The actual ID was more like 3/8" and would quickly be
>> swamped
>> >>>during a hard rain. First the boat should be dead level beam wise to
>> >>>keep one drain from getting more water. But the best fix is to go to
>> 1"
>> >>>or 1 1/8" plastic fittings (both have the same diameter bodies). If
>> you
>> >>>do not have a dremel tool or roto-zip, buy a roto-zip bit and put it in
>> >>>your drill to enlarge the holes. Both sides took me about an hour and
>> a
>> >>>half, not counting sealer drying time.
>> >>>
>> >>>Todd T.
>> >>>
>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> From: "Rory Orkin"
>> >>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Laz leakage another reply to Rory
>> >>> Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 10:35:37 -0700 (PDT)
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Would it be Feasable rather than replacing the existing ones.. to add
>> >>> 2
>> >>> additional ones to increase the drainage capacity ? That way all
>> >>> holes could
>> >>> be cut for the exact new size.
>> >>>
>> >>> Hank-5 wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I haven't figured out exactly what I want to use yet. I'd like to
>> >>> find
>> >>> > something with a strainer on it to keep the leaves and other crap
>> >>> out, but
>> >>> > all of those that I have seen are flush mount which means I have to
>> >>> bevel
>> >>> > the hole. Not something I look forward to doing. When I decide,
>> >>> I'll let
>> >>> > you know.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Hank
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On 5/31/07, Rory Orkin wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> It was Hank who was going to try to increase the fittings and
>> >>> hose..
>> >>> >> Sounds
>> >>> >> like a good Idea but I would ask him what he is going to use .. I
>> >>> think
>> >>> >> it
>> >>> >> may be a job on the rear drains and of course the through hulls
>> >>> have to
>> >>> >> be
>> >>> >> at least as large as the uppers. It seems like this is a more
>> >>> common
>> >>> >> problem
>> >>> >> than I first thought
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Todd Zumach wrote:
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Rory,
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > What do you plan to use for fittings and hose? I am considering
>> >>> the
>> >>> >> same
>> >>> >> > project, because my current (1/2"?) holes frequently clog with
>> >>> Birch
>> >>> >> > twigs,
>> >>> >> > leaves, and such. I found some surface mount fittings (vs. flush
>> >>> >> mount)
>> >>> >> > but
>> >>> >> > I am concerned about the room available in the corners of seats
>> >>> being
>> >>> >> too
>> >>> >> > small to accept the fitting without too much water being left
>> >>> standing.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > The other day we had a deluge and I had 6 inches of water in the
>> >>> >> > lazzerette
>> >>> >> > and a couple inches in the bilge. It took me about 45 minutes to
>> >>> clear
>> >>> >> it
>> >>> >> > all out. I checked the next day and the lazz was dry and the
>> >>> bilge was
>> >>> >> > still
>> >>> >> > seaping some water (from the lazz?, I checked all the hatches
>> >>> and other
>> >>> >> > cabin related areas and found them to be dry and tight). Today
>> >>> we had
>> >>> >> > another brief but very hard rain. I just checked and found a
>> >>> pint or
>> >>> >> so
>> >>> >> > in
>> >>> >> > the lazz.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > I have had my boat set on the trailer with the bow up and now
>> >>> with the
>> >>> >> bow
>> >>> >> > down (cockpit seats are nearly level). I think with with bow up,
>> >>> there
>> >>> >> > was
>> >>> >> > so much water flowing to the stern that the drains didn't have a
>> >>> >> chance.
>> >>> >> > With the cockpit seats closer to level, I am hoping to give the
>> >>> drains
>> >>> >> a
>> >>> >> > little extra time to flush.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > I too am looking at some form of gasket material around the lazz
>> >>> hatch.
>> >>> >> > Let
>> >>> >> > me know what you come up with.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Thanks,
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Todd Z.
>> >>> >> > Phillips, WI
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > On 5/30/07, Rory Orkin wrote:
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Never thought of that.. I would think that if the hose is
>> >>> smaller than
>> >>> >> >> the
>> >>> >> >> input or output then it could reduce the flow causing a backup.
>> >>> I
>> >>> >> would
>> >>> >> >> not
>> >>> >> >> want to be fooling with the through hulls though myself.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Hank-5 wrote:
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > Rory,
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > I think my boat has the same problem, but I intend to tackle
>> >>> it a
>> >>> >> >> little
>> >>> >> >> > different. My drain fittings and hoses are rather small and I
>> >>> plan
>> >>> >> to
>> >>> >> >> > install larger fittings and hoses so the water won't be able
>> >>> to
>> >>> >> build
>> >>> >> >> up.
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > Hank
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> > On 5/29/07, Rory Orkin wrote:
>> >>> >> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> >> Not presumptuous at all but yes I did exactly that. There is
>> >>> only
>> >>> >> >> about
>> >>> >> >> a
>> >>> >> >> >> 1
>> >>> >> >> >> inch lip in the lazarette. The hatch does overlap that but
>> >>> there is
>> >>> >> at
>> >>> >> >> >> least
>> >>> >> >> >> a 1/2" gap there which of course will allow water in if the
>> >>> water
>> >>> >> >> build
>> >>> >> >> >> up
>> >>> >> >> >> is greater than the aprox 1 inch molded in lip at the
>> >>> lazarette.
>> >>> >> This
>> >>> >> >> is
>> >>> >> >> >> why
>> >>> >> >> >> I was exploring some kind of weather stripping .. I am
>> >>> hoping that
>> >>> >> >> >> perhaps
>> >>> >> >> >> leveling the boat or perhaps a slight bit of forward angle
>> >>> will
>> >>> >> stop
>> >>> >> >> the
>> >>> >> >> >> flooding around the lazarette cover.. Since this does not
>> >>> seem to
>> >>> >> be
>> >>> >> a
>> >>> >> >> >> widespread problem then hopefully that will be the answer.
>> >>> Since
>> >>> >> Rummy
>> >>> >> >> >> says
>> >>> >> >> >> his is a little bow heavy and leans that way normally then
>> >>> that
>> >>> >> could
>> >>> >> >> be
>> >>> >> >> >> the
>> >>> >> >> >> answer. Of course we have not had rain here for 2-1/2
>> >>> >> >> >> weeks the problem has not been a problem lately :-) Thanks
>> >>> for the
>> >>> >> >> reply.
>> >>> >> >> >> Rory
>> >>> >> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> >> Woten wrote:
>> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >> > Rory,
>> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >> > It may be presumptuous of me to ask this, but have you
>> >>> dried out
>> >>> >> >> your
>> >>> >> >> >> lazz
>> >>> >> >> >> > entirely, closed up the lazz, actually pointed a hose on
>> >>> and
>> >>> >> around
>> >>> >> >> >> just
>> >>> >> >> >> > the
>> >>> >> >> >> > lazz cover and the immediate area, dumped water on it
>> >>> hard, and
>> >>> >> >> found
>> >>> >> >> >> > water in
>> >>> >> >> >> > your lazz?
>> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >> > Dave
>> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >> >
>> >>> >> >> >> >
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