[Rhodes22-list] computer virus and elle

Bill Effros bill at effros.com
Thu Mar 1 10:37:45 EST 2007


Not to mention the Lisa, the Newton, the Apple III...

Please.

If the Apple is so wonderful why are the Mac people so excited about the 
change from the Motorola chip to the Intel chip?

It's so that they can finally use all of the programs available 
routinely to PC users.

Which takes us right back to the Z80 card.  Apple is now marketing a 
very expensive keyboard--no wonder they are shifting into the cell phone 
business.

BTW -- Because Apple users believe they are so immune to hacking, they 
have made much less of an attempt to block hackers.  The next time you 
pick up an unblocked WiFi signal take a look to see what kind of 
computer it is coming from.  1 in 20 computers are Macs.  90% of the 
open systems I hack into are Apples.  I just use their Internet 
connections, but I can go right into their systems as if I were them.

Bill Effros

Joseph Hadzima wrote:
> I'm not too sure about "always".  I recall the first item
> people purchased for an apple II was a Z80 card ... it
> replace the processor with a Z80, so you could replace the
> Apple OS with CPM, and then run actual usable programs
> (e.g. Visicalc) ... so you paid for an apple and used it
> only as a keyboard since you replace the processor & the
> OS.  
>
> Not looking for a fight of opinions here ... Just
> attempting to put the "always" into perspective :-)
>
> happy computing!
>
> joe / hadz.
>
>
> --- Luis Guzman <trpclman at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> Ed,
>>
>> Apple computers have always been superior, but Mr Gates
>> had a better marketing scheme.
>>
>> Microsoft operating systems have always  had security
>> issues. 
>>
>> Luis
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net>
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 5:53:09 PM
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] computer virus and elle
>>
>>
>> Elle:
>>
>>        Why do hackers and other misfits attack Microsoft
>> based systems. 
>> There must be a reason.  Could the sheer number of msdos
>> based systems be a
>> factor?  
>>
>>         I have been around since before there were any
>> apple computers. 
>> Have you ever heard of Zlog?  There were many around.  So
>> how did apple
>> grow?  If you listen to Mr. Jobs and long time members of
>> the apple family
>> they will say that they offered a better product,
>> cheaper.  
>>
>>         Then how did there get to be so many msdos
>> systems, if they were the
>> inferior system and more expensive?  
>>
>>          Fire walls and bad stuff filters work fine.  
>>
>> Ed K
>> Greenville, SC, USA
>> addendum about your computer mouse:  
>>
>> Abstract: Mouse Balls Available as FRU (Field Replacement
>> Unit) 
>> Mouse balls are now available as FRU. Therefore, if a
>> mouse fails to operate
>> or should it perform erratically, it may need a ball
>> replacement. Because of
>> the delicate nature of this procedure, replacement of
>> mouse balls should
>> only be attempted by properly trained personnel. 
>>
>> Before proceeding, determine the type of mouse balls by
>> examining the
>> underside of the mouse. Domestic balls will be larger and
>> harder than
>> foreign balls. Ball removal procedures differ depending
>> upon manufacturer of
>> the mouse. Foreign balls can be replaced using the
>> pop-off method. Domestic
>> balls are replaced using the twist-off method. Mouse
>> balls are not usually
>> static sensitive. However, excessive handling can result
>> in sudden
>> discharge. Upon completion of ball replacement, the mouse
>> may be used
>> immediately. 
>>
>> It is recommended that each replacer have a pair of spare
>> balls for
>> maintaining optimum customer satisfaction, and that any
>> customer missing his
>> balls should suspect local personnel of removing these
>> necessary items. 
>>
>> To re-order, specify one of the following: 
>>
>> P/N 33F8462 - Domestic Mouse Balls
>> P/N 33F8461 - Foreign Mouse Balls 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> watermusic38 wrote:
>>     
>>> Take two Nortons & call Apple in the morning.
>>>
>>> elle
>>>
>>>
>>> --- Luis Guzman <trpclman at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Ed,
>>>>
>>>> I do think you have a virus. Your emails are being
>>>> sent in duplicate.
>>>>
>>>> Luis
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>> From: Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net>
>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 2:07:23 PM
>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Reply to Bob Skinner about
>>>> 'My Doom' virus - retransmission
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bob,
>>>>
>>>>      This A.M. about 7 EST, I checked emails.  I use
>>>> outlook and norton and
>>>> electronic firewalll.  I received several routine
>>>> emails when things went
>>>> into slow motion.  That happens when I am getting
>>>> mega bite incoming,
>>>> program updates, and nasty stuff.  Shortly
>>>> thereafter the screen flashed
>>>> that it had intercepted malicious email, did I want
>>>> to see details?  So I
>>>> hit details, it said "mydoom" intecepted and
>>>> removed.  It came from an
>>>> unkown email address, but had the rr's in it like
>>>> some users of this list
>>>> have in theirs.  I further deleted that information
>>>> and ran my windows file
>>>> cleaning program that erases to military secure
>>>> specs.  I did not save any
>>>> other details other than mentally noted 'mydoom' and
>>>> the rr in the email
>>>> address.  I did not want anything left around.  You
>>>> may want to check with
>>>> the security people about this if it a
>>>> reinfestation.  But fair warning to
>>>> anyone whose virus protection is not updated.
>>>>
>>>> Ed K
>>>> Greenville, SC, USA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Robert Skinner wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> Ed,
>>>>>
>>>>> In a quick (not thorough) search, I found that 
>>>>> the "mydoom" virus last raised its head in 2004.  
>>>>> What is the source of your info on a current 
>>>>> infestation?
>>>>>
>>>>> /Robert
>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>> Tootle wrote:
>>>>>           
>>>>>> There is a version of 'mydoom' virus making
>>>>>>             
>>>> rounds.  Make sure that your
>>>>         
>>>>>> anti
>>>>>> virus software is up to date and watch for
>>>>>>             
>>>> attachments.  This report
>>>>         
>>>>>> comes
>>>>>> from an attack this A.M.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ed K
>>>>>>             
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