[Rhodes22-list] The Great Global Warming Swindle

[Jim Connolly]

Did anyone notice on CNN today that US oil companies are pushing (in
congress) an exemption to the Cuban embargo to sell equipment and services,
now that Cuba may have oil reserves similar to ours in the Gulf of Mexico.

Funny how that works.

Jim Connolly
s/v Inisheer
'85 recycled '03

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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Brad Haslett
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 6:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] The Great Global Warming Swindle

Slim,

Relax, the market for oil will solve the global warming problem long before
the Hollywood scare tactics do.  Most of the oil is in places that are
inhospitable, either because of politics or environment.  We can be
proactive and raise the price of transportation energy in anticipation of
the 'raghead' blackmail (and I mean raghead in a friendly way) or the
straight forward confrontation with the yellow peril (Chinese, and I'm very
friendly with the Chinese).  Either way, the political or economic issues
will be the immediate long before we're under water.  Yea, Yea, Yea, we're
the energy hogs of the globe, but we are also the most productive per capita
on the globe as well. I'll sing Kum Ba Ya along with you under the palm tree
as soon as the Kum Ba Ya union pays the same hourly wage as mine.

Brad

On 3/7/07, Slim <stevenalm at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Brad,
>
> I don't see a solution anywhere.  If the climate continues to change 
> and the waters rise and the population grows, we won't need a solution 
> if you get my meaning.
>
> Slim
>
> On 3/7/07 5:19 AM, "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Slim,
> >
> > I'm not making the point that we should shirk our responsibility for 
> > our
> CO2
> > footprint, only that we should be sensible about it.  Kyoto didn't 
> > do
> jack
> > shit and would have crippled our economy.  That's why the Clinton 
> > administration never submitted it to the Senate for a vote.  We 
> > should
> do
> > what we can but in the long run it will be the third world 
> > countries, especially China and India, that control the outcome.  
> > Make me the
> President
> > for one day and I'll solve the problem in the US.  Gasoline will be 
> > $4
> per
> > gallon, CAFE standards will be 50 mpg, we'll tax carbon emissions, 
> > and
> put
> > nuclear power plant permitting on a fast track.  That won't happen
> because
> > I'd have to make a campaign speech in Iowa and would tell the Corn
> Growers
> > Association that corn based ethanol is the biggest energy loser ever
> hoisted
> > on US taxpayers and as soon as I'm elected it will stop.
> >
> > What's your solution?
> >
> > Brad
> >
> > On 3/6/07, Slim <stevenalm at comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Brad,
> >>
> >> To use this point as a way to shirk responsibility for our C02
> footprint
> >> is
> >> outrageous.   We done dirtied our world and they ain't no sense in
> denying
> >> it.
> >>
> >> Slim
> >>
> >> On 3/6/07 4:24 PM, "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Slim,
> >>>
> >>> The point is correct, "it may also have the unintended consequence 
> >>> of stifling development in the third world, prolonging endemic 
> >>> poverty
> and
> >>> disease."  That is very true.  Third world countries want to 
> >>> progress
> as
> >>> well, that means giving up horses for "horses".  They will. Here's
> your
> >> sign
> >>> -
> >>>
> >>>
> http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/03/05/MNG18OFHF21.DT
> L
> >>>
> >>> China and India are the front battle lines on Global Warming.
> >>>
> >>> Frankly, I believe the whole thing is a crock of shit but support 
> >>> the eco-terrorists on this issue to a degree because the 
> >>> unwittingly are fighting the real terrorists.
> >>>
> >>> Science be damned!  As long as the outcome is good it's all good.
> >>>
> >>> Brad
> >>>
> >>> On 3/6/07, Slim <stevenalm at comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> The film argues that the earth's climate is always changing, and
> that
> >>>> rapid
> >>>>> warmings and coolings took place long before the burning of 
> >>>>> fossil
> >>>> fuels. It
> >>>>> argues that the present single-minded focus on reducing carbon
> >> emissions
> >>>> not
> >>>>> only may have little impact on climate change, it may also have 
> >>>>> the unintended consequence of stifling development in the third 
> >>>>> world, prolonging endemic poverty and disease.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Now I've heard everything.
> >>>>
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