[Rhodes22-list] Laz leakage another reply to Rory

Rory Orkin roryorkin at earthlink.net
Thu May 31 21:12:26 EDT 2007


I did not think about the beam wise level.. On water , that is harder than
you might think with the new 4 stroke engine weight and the gas tank on that
side as well. I underthunk it.. :-)


Todd Tavares wrote:
> 
>  All,
> I haven't taken time to read all of the laz/drain posts, but you guys are
> way over thinking the problem. A boat that old had 3/4" drain "thru-hull"
> fittings.  The actual ID was more like 3/8" and would quickly be swamped
> during a hard rain.  First the boat should be dead level beam wise to
> keep one drain from getting more water.  But the best fix is to go to 1"
> or 1 1/8" plastic fittings (both have the same diameter bodies).   If you
> do not have a dremel tool or roto-zip, buy a roto-zip bit and put it in
> your drill to enlarge the holes.  Both sides took me about an hour and a
> half, not counting sealer drying time.
> 
> Todd T.
> 
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: "Rory Orkin"
>   To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>   Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Laz leakage another reply to Rory
>   Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 10:35:37 -0700 (PDT)
> 
> 
> 
>   Would it be Feasable rather than replacing the existing ones.. to add
>   2
>   additional ones to increase the drainage capacity ? That way all
>   holes could
>   be cut for the exact new size.
> 
>   Hank-5 wrote:
>   >
>   > I haven't figured out exactly what I want to use yet. I'd like to
>   find
>   > something with a strainer on it to keep the leaves and other crap
>   out, but
>   > all of those that I have seen are flush mount which means I have to
>   bevel
>   > the hole. Not something I look forward to doing. When I decide,
>   I'll let
>   > you know.
>   >
>   > Hank
>   >
>   >
>   > On 5/31/07, Rory Orkin wrote:
>   >>
>   >>
>   >> It was Hank who was going to try to increase the fittings and
>   hose..
>   >> Sounds
>   >> like a good Idea but I would ask him what he is going to use .. I
>   think
>   >> it
>   >> may be a job on the rear drains and of course the through hulls
>   have to
>   >> be
>   >> at least as large as the uppers. It seems like this is a more
>   common
>   >> problem
>   >> than I first thought
>   >>
>   >> Todd Zumach wrote:
>   >> >
>   >> > Rory,
>   >> >
>   >> > What do you plan to use for fittings and hose? I am considering
>   the
>   >> same
>   >> > project, because my current (1/2"?) holes frequently clog with
>   Birch
>   >> > twigs,
>   >> > leaves, and such. I found some surface mount fittings (vs. flush
>   >> mount)
>   >> > but
>   >> > I am concerned about the room available in the corners of seats
>   being
>   >> too
>   >> > small to accept the fitting without too much water being left
>   standing.
>   >> >
>   >> > The other day we had a deluge and I had 6 inches of water in the
>   >> > lazzerette
>   >> > and a couple inches in the bilge. It took me about 45 minutes to
>   clear
>   >> it
>   >> > all out. I checked the next day and the lazz was dry and the
>   bilge was
>   >> > still
>   >> > seaping some water (from the lazz?, I checked all the hatches
>   and other
>   >> > cabin related areas and found them to be dry and tight). Today
>   we had
>   >> > another brief but very hard rain. I just checked and found a
>   pint or
>   >> so
>   >> > in
>   >> > the lazz.
>   >> >
>   >> > I have had my boat set on the trailer with the bow up and now
>   with the
>   >> bow
>   >> > down (cockpit seats are nearly level). I think with with bow up,
>   there
>   >> > was
>   >> > so much water flowing to the stern that the drains didn't have a
>   >> chance.
>   >> > With the cockpit seats closer to level, I am hoping to give the
>   drains
>   >> a
>   >> > little extra time to flush.
>   >> >
>   >> > I too am looking at some form of gasket material around the lazz
>   hatch.
>   >> > Let
>   >> > me know what you come up with.
>   >> >
>   >> > Thanks,
>   >> >
>   >> > Todd Z.
>   >> > Phillips, WI
>   >> >
>   >> > On 5/30/07, Rory Orkin wrote:
>   >> >>
>   >> >>
>   >> >> Never thought of that.. I would think that if the hose is
>   smaller than
>   >> >> the
>   >> >> input or output then it could reduce the flow causing a backup.
>   I
>   >> would
>   >> >> not
>   >> >> want to be fooling with the through hulls though myself.
>   >> >>
>   >> >> Hank-5 wrote:
>   >> >> >
>   >> >> > Rory,
>   >> >> >
>   >> >> > I think my boat has the same problem, but I intend to tackle
>   it a
>   >> >> little
>   >> >> > different. My drain fittings and hoses are rather small and I
>   plan
>   >> to
>   >> >> > install larger fittings and hoses so the water won't be able
>   to
>   >> build
>   >> >> up.
>   >> >> >
>   >> >> > Hank
>   >> >> >
>   >> >> >
>   >> >> > On 5/29/07, Rory Orkin wrote:
>   >> >> >>
>   >> >> >>
>   >> >> >> Not presumptuous at all but yes I did exactly that. There is
>   only
>   >> >> about
>   >> >> a
>   >> >> >> 1
>   >> >> >> inch lip in the lazarette. The hatch does overlap that but
>   there is
>   >> at
>   >> >> >> least
>   >> >> >> a 1/2" gap there which of course will allow water in if the
>   water
>   >> >> build
>   >> >> >> up
>   >> >> >> is greater than the aprox 1 inch molded in lip at the
>   lazarette.
>   >> This
>   >> >> is
>   >> >> >> why
>   >> >> >> I was exploring some kind of weather stripping .. I am
>   hoping that
>   >> >> >> perhaps
>   >> >> >> leveling the boat or perhaps a slight bit of forward angle
>   will
>   >> stop
>   >> >> the
>   >> >> >> flooding around the lazarette cover.. Since this does not
>   seem to
>   >> be
>   >> a
>   >> >> >> widespread problem then hopefully that will be the answer.
>   Since
>   >> Rummy
>   >> >> >> says
>   >> >> >> his is a little bow heavy and leans that way normally then
>   that
>   >> could
>   >> >> be
>   >> >> >> the
>   >> >> >> answer. Of course we have not had rain here for 2-1/2
>   >> >> >> weeks the problem has not been a problem lately :-) Thanks
>   for the
>   >> >> reply.
>   >> >> >> Rory
>   >> >> >>
>   >> >> >> Woten wrote:
>   >> >> >> >
>   >> >> >> >
>   >> >> >> > Rory,
>   >> >> >> >
>   >> >> >> > It may be presumptuous of me to ask this, but have you
>   dried out
>   >> >> your
>   >> >> >> lazz
>   >> >> >> > entirely, closed up the lazz, actually pointed a hose on
>   and
>   >> around
>   >> >> >> just
>   >> >> >> > the
>   >> >> >> > lazz cover and the immediate area, dumped water on it
>   hard, and
>   >> >> found
>   >> >> >> > water in
>   >> >> >> > your lazz?
>   >> >> >> >
>   >> >> >> > Dave
>   >> >> >> >
>   >> >> >> >
>   >> >> >> >
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