[Rhodes22-list] Laz leakage another reply to Rory

Rory Orkin roryorkin at earthlink.net
Thu May 31 22:04:39 EDT 2007


And have the additional benefit of being available for traction in snow :-)


Bud_On_Rhodes wrote:
> 
> Rory,
>   two 50# bags of playground sand placed under the starboard cockpit 
> bench seat (placed forward) will level
> your boat out nicely.
> 
> -Bud
> 
> Rory Orkin wrote:
> 
>>I did not think about the beam wise level.. On water , that is harder than
>>you might think with the new 4 stroke engine weight and the gas tank on
that
>>side as well. I underthunk it.. :-)
>>
>>
>>Todd Tavares wrote:
>>  
>>
>>> All,
>>>I haven't taken time to read all of the laz/drain posts, but you guys are
>>>way over thinking the problem. A boat that old had 3/4" drain "thru-hull"
>>>fittings.  The actual ID was more like 3/8" and would quickly be swamped
>>>during a hard rain.  First the boat should be dead level beam wise to
>>>keep one drain from getting more water.  But the best fix is to go to 1"
>>>or 1 1/8" plastic fittings (both have the same diameter bodies).   If you
>>>do not have a dremel tool or roto-zip, buy a roto-zip bit and put it in
>>>your drill to enlarge the holes.  Both sides took me about an hour and a
>>>half, not counting sealer drying time.
>>>
>>>Todd T.
>>>
>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>  From: "Rory Orkin"
>>>  To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>  Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Laz leakage another reply to Rory
>>>  Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 10:35:37 -0700 (PDT)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Would it be Feasable rather than replacing the existing ones.. to add
>>>  2
>>>  additional ones to increase the drainage capacity ? That way all
>>>  holes could
>>>  be cut for the exact new size.
>>>
>>>  Hank-5 wrote:
>>>  >
>>>  > I haven't figured out exactly what I want to use yet. I'd like to
>>>  find
>>>  > something with a strainer on it to keep the leaves and other crap
>>>  out, but
>>>  > all of those that I have seen are flush mount which means I have to
>>>  bevel
>>>  > the hole. Not something I look forward to doing. When I decide,
>>>  I'll let
>>>  > you know.
>>>  >
>>>  > Hank
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  > On 5/31/07, Rory Orkin wrote:
>>>  >>
>>>  >>
>>>  >> It was Hank who was going to try to increase the fittings and
>>>  hose..
>>>  >> Sounds
>>>  >> like a good Idea but I would ask him what he is going to use .. I
>>>  think
>>>  >> it
>>>  >> may be a job on the rear drains and of course the through hulls
>>>  have to
>>>  >> be
>>>  >> at least as large as the uppers. It seems like this is a more
>>>  common
>>>  >> problem
>>>  >> than I first thought
>>>  >>
>>>  >> Todd Zumach wrote:
>>>  >> >
>>>  >> > Rory,
>>>  >> >
>>>  >> > What do you plan to use for fittings and hose? I am considering
>>>  the
>>>  >> same
>>>  >> > project, because my current (1/2"?) holes frequently clog with
>>>  Birch
>>>  >> > twigs,
>>>  >> > leaves, and such. I found some surface mount fittings (vs. flush
>>>  >> mount)
>>>  >> > but
>>>  >> > I am concerned about the room available in the corners of seats
>>>  being
>>>  >> too
>>>  >> > small to accept the fitting without too much water being left
>>>  standing.
>>>  >> >
>>>  >> > The other day we had a deluge and I had 6 inches of water in the
>>>  >> > lazzerette
>>>  >> > and a couple inches in the bilge. It took me about 45 minutes to
>>>  clear
>>>  >> it
>>>  >> > all out. I checked the next day and the lazz was dry and the
>>>  bilge was
>>>  >> > still
>>>  >> > seaping some water (from the lazz?, I checked all the hatches
>>>  and other
>>>  >> > cabin related areas and found them to be dry and tight). Today
>>>  we had
>>>  >> > another brief but very hard rain. I just checked and found a
>>>  pint or
>>>  >> so
>>>  >> > in
>>>  >> > the lazz.
>>>  >> >
>>>  >> > I have had my boat set on the trailer with the bow up and now
>>>  with the
>>>  >> bow
>>>  >> > down (cockpit seats are nearly level). I think with with bow up,
>>>  there
>>>  >> > was
>>>  >> > so much water flowing to the stern that the drains didn't have a
>>>  >> chance.
>>>  >> > With the cockpit seats closer to level, I am hoping to give the
>>>  drains
>>>  >> a
>>>  >> > little extra time to flush.
>>>  >> >
>>>  >> > I too am looking at some form of gasket material around the lazz
>>>  hatch.
>>>  >> > Let
>>>  >> > me know what you come up with.
>>>  >> >
>>>  >> > Thanks,
>>>  >> >
>>>  >> > Todd Z.
>>>  >> > Phillips, WI
>>>  >> >
>>>  >> > On 5/30/07, Rory Orkin wrote:
>>>  >> >>
>>>  >> >>
>>>  >> >> Never thought of that.. I would think that if the hose is
>>>  smaller than
>>>  >> >> the
>>>  >> >> input or output then it could reduce the flow causing a backup.
>>>  I
>>>  >> would
>>>  >> >> not
>>>  >> >> want to be fooling with the through hulls though myself.
>>>  >> >>
>>>  >> >> Hank-5 wrote:
>>>  >> >> >
>>>  >> >> > Rory,
>>>  >> >> >
>>>  >> >> > I think my boat has the same problem, but I intend to tackle
>>>  it a
>>>  >> >> little
>>>  >> >> > different. My drain fittings and hoses are rather small and I
>>>  plan
>>>  >> to
>>>  >> >> > install larger fittings and hoses so the water won't be able
>>>  to
>>>  >> build
>>>  >> >> up.
>>>  >> >> >
>>>  >> >> > Hank
>>>  >> >> >
>>>  >> >> >
>>>  >> >> > On 5/29/07, Rory Orkin wrote:
>>>  >> >> >>
>>>  >> >> >>
>>>  >> >> >> Not presumptuous at all but yes I did exactly that. There is
>>>  only
>>>  >> >> about
>>>  >> >> a
>>>  >> >> >> 1
>>>  >> >> >> inch lip in the lazarette. The hatch does overlap that but
>>>  there is
>>>  >> at
>>>  >> >> >> least
>>>  >> >> >> a 1/2" gap there which of course will allow water in if the
>>>  water
>>>  >> >> build
>>>  >> >> >> up
>>>  >> >> >> is greater than the aprox 1 inch molded in lip at the
>>>  lazarette.
>>>  >> This
>>>  >> >> is
>>>  >> >> >> why
>>>  >> >> >> I was exploring some kind of weather stripping .. I am
>>>  hoping that
>>>  >> >> >> perhaps
>>>  >> >> >> leveling the boat or perhaps a slight bit of forward angle
>>>  will
>>>  >> stop
>>>  >> >> the
>>>  >> >> >> flooding around the lazarette cover.. Since this does not
>>>  seem to
>>>  >> be
>>>  >> a
>>>  >> >> >> widespread problem then hopefully that will be the answer.
>>>  Since
>>>  >> Rummy
>>>  >> >> >> says
>>>  >> >> >> his is a little bow heavy and leans that way normally then
>>>  that
>>>  >> could
>>>  >> >> be
>>>  >> >> >> the
>>>  >> >> >> answer. Of course we have not had rain here for 2-1/2
>>>  >> >> >> weeks the problem has not been a problem lately :-) Thanks
>>>  for the
>>>  >> >> reply.
>>>  >> >> >> Rory
>>>  >> >> >>
>>>  >> >> >> Woten wrote:
>>>  >> >> >> >
>>>  >> >> >> >
>>>  >> >> >> > Rory,
>>>  >> >> >> >
>>>  >> >> >> > It may be presumptuous of me to ask this, but have you
>>>  dried out
>>>  >> >> your
>>>  >> >> >> lazz
>>>  >> >> >> > entirely, closed up the lazz, actually pointed a hose on
>>>  and
>>>  >> around
>>>  >> >> >> just
>>>  >> >> >> > the
>>>  >> >> >> > lazz cover and the immediate area, dumped water on it
>>>  hard, and
>>>  >> >> found
>>>  >> >> >> > water in
>>>  >> >> >> > your lazz?
>>>  >> >> >> >
>>>  >> >> >> > Dave
>>>  >> >> >> >
>>>  >> >> >> >
>>>  >> >> >> >
>>>  >> >> >> > ************************************** See what's free at
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