[Rhodes22-list] Laz leakage another reply to Rory
David Bradley
dwbrad at gmail.com
Thu May 31 23:45:00 EDT 2007
And per the earlier exchange with Elle, the Rubbermaid 44 qt clear plastic
container will hold your weight, just make it under the seat toward the
stern, then when you slide if forward it can't slide back out from beneath
the seat. I can't imagine I'd want 100 # of sand to come crashing across
the cockpit if I had the port rails in the water...
Dave
On 5/31/07, Rory Orkin <roryorkin at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
> And have the additional benefit of being available for traction in snow
> :-)
>
>
> Bud_On_Rhodes wrote:
> >
> > Rory,
> > two 50# bags of playground sand placed under the starboard cockpit
> > bench seat (placed forward) will level
> > your boat out nicely.
> >
> > -Bud
> >
> > Rory Orkin wrote:
> >
> >>I did not think about the beam wise level.. On water , that is harder
> than
> >>you might think with the new 4 stroke engine weight and the gas tank on
> that
> >>side as well. I underthunk it.. :-)
> >>
> >>
> >>Todd Tavares wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> All,
> >>>I haven't taken time to read all of the laz/drain posts, but you guys
> are
> >>>way over thinking the problem. A boat that old had 3/4" drain
> "thru-hull"
> >>>fittings. The actual ID was more like 3/8" and would quickly be
> swamped
> >>>during a hard rain. First the boat should be dead level beam wise to
> >>>keep one drain from getting more water. But the best fix is to go to
> 1"
> >>>or 1 1/8" plastic fittings (both have the same diameter bodies). If
> you
> >>>do not have a dremel tool or roto-zip, buy a roto-zip bit and put it in
> >>>your drill to enlarge the holes. Both sides took me about an hour and
> a
> >>>half, not counting sealer drying time.
> >>>
> >>>Todd T.
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Rory Orkin"
> >>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Laz leakage another reply to Rory
> >>> Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 10:35:37 -0700 (PDT)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Would it be Feasable rather than replacing the existing ones.. to add
> >>> 2
> >>> additional ones to increase the drainage capacity ? That way all
> >>> holes could
> >>> be cut for the exact new size.
> >>>
> >>> Hank-5 wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > I haven't figured out exactly what I want to use yet. I'd like to
> >>> find
> >>> > something with a strainer on it to keep the leaves and other crap
> >>> out, but
> >>> > all of those that I have seen are flush mount which means I have to
> >>> bevel
> >>> > the hole. Not something I look forward to doing. When I decide,
> >>> I'll let
> >>> > you know.
> >>> >
> >>> > Hank
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On 5/31/07, Rory Orkin wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> It was Hank who was going to try to increase the fittings and
> >>> hose..
> >>> >> Sounds
> >>> >> like a good Idea but I would ask him what he is going to use .. I
> >>> think
> >>> >> it
> >>> >> may be a job on the rear drains and of course the through hulls
> >>> have to
> >>> >> be
> >>> >> at least as large as the uppers. It seems like this is a more
> >>> common
> >>> >> problem
> >>> >> than I first thought
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Todd Zumach wrote:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Rory,
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > What do you plan to use for fittings and hose? I am considering
> >>> the
> >>> >> same
> >>> >> > project, because my current (1/2"?) holes frequently clog with
> >>> Birch
> >>> >> > twigs,
> >>> >> > leaves, and such. I found some surface mount fittings (vs. flush
> >>> >> mount)
> >>> >> > but
> >>> >> > I am concerned about the room available in the corners of seats
> >>> being
> >>> >> too
> >>> >> > small to accept the fitting without too much water being left
> >>> standing.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > The other day we had a deluge and I had 6 inches of water in the
> >>> >> > lazzerette
> >>> >> > and a couple inches in the bilge. It took me about 45 minutes to
> >>> clear
> >>> >> it
> >>> >> > all out. I checked the next day and the lazz was dry and the
> >>> bilge was
> >>> >> > still
> >>> >> > seaping some water (from the lazz?, I checked all the hatches
> >>> and other
> >>> >> > cabin related areas and found them to be dry and tight). Today
> >>> we had
> >>> >> > another brief but very hard rain. I just checked and found a
> >>> pint or
> >>> >> so
> >>> >> > in
> >>> >> > the lazz.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > I have had my boat set on the trailer with the bow up and now
> >>> with the
> >>> >> bow
> >>> >> > down (cockpit seats are nearly level). I think with with bow up,
> >>> there
> >>> >> > was
> >>> >> > so much water flowing to the stern that the drains didn't have a
> >>> >> chance.
> >>> >> > With the cockpit seats closer to level, I am hoping to give the
> >>> drains
> >>> >> a
> >>> >> > little extra time to flush.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > I too am looking at some form of gasket material around the lazz
> >>> hatch.
> >>> >> > Let
> >>> >> > me know what you come up with.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Thanks,
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Todd Z.
> >>> >> > Phillips, WI
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > On 5/30/07, Rory Orkin wrote:
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Never thought of that.. I would think that if the hose is
> >>> smaller than
> >>> >> >> the
> >>> >> >> input or output then it could reduce the flow causing a backup.
> >>> I
> >>> >> would
> >>> >> >> not
> >>> >> >> want to be fooling with the through hulls though myself.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Hank-5 wrote:
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > Rory,
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > I think my boat has the same problem, but I intend to tackle
> >>> it a
> >>> >> >> little
> >>> >> >> > different. My drain fittings and hoses are rather small and I
> >>> plan
> >>> >> to
> >>> >> >> > install larger fittings and hoses so the water won't be able
> >>> to
> >>> >> build
> >>> >> >> up.
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > Hank
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > On 5/29/07, Rory Orkin wrote:
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> Not presumptuous at all but yes I did exactly that. There is
> >>> only
> >>> >> >> about
> >>> >> >> a
> >>> >> >> >> 1
> >>> >> >> >> inch lip in the lazarette. The hatch does overlap that but
> >>> there is
> >>> >> at
> >>> >> >> >> least
> >>> >> >> >> a 1/2" gap there which of course will allow water in if the
> >>> water
> >>> >> >> build
> >>> >> >> >> up
> >>> >> >> >> is greater than the aprox 1 inch molded in lip at the
> >>> lazarette.
> >>> >> This
> >>> >> >> is
> >>> >> >> >> why
> >>> >> >> >> I was exploring some kind of weather stripping .. I am
> >>> hoping that
> >>> >> >> >> perhaps
> >>> >> >> >> leveling the boat or perhaps a slight bit of forward angle
> >>> will
> >>> >> stop
> >>> >> >> the
> >>> >> >> >> flooding around the lazarette cover.. Since this does not
> >>> seem to
> >>> >> be
> >>> >> a
> >>> >> >> >> widespread problem then hopefully that will be the answer.
> >>> Since
> >>> >> Rummy
> >>> >> >> >> says
> >>> >> >> >> his is a little bow heavy and leans that way normally then
> >>> that
> >>> >> could
> >>> >> >> be
> >>> >> >> >> the
> >>> >> >> >> answer. Of course we have not had rain here for 2-1/2
> >>> >> >> >> weeks the problem has not been a problem lately :-) Thanks
> >>> for the
> >>> >> >> reply.
> >>> >> >> >> Rory
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> Woten wrote:
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> > Rory,
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> > It may be presumptuous of me to ask this, but have you
> >>> dried out
> >>> >> >> your
> >>> >> >> >> lazz
> >>> >> >> >> > entirely, closed up the lazz, actually pointed a hose on
> >>> and
> >>> >> around
> >>> >> >> >> just
> >>> >> >> >> > the
> >>> >> >> >> > lazz cover and the immediate area, dumped water on it
> >>> hard, and
> >>> >> >> found
> >>> >> >> >> > water in
> >>> >> >> >> > your lazz?
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> > Dave
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >> > ************************************** See what's free at
> >>> >> >> >> > http://www.aol.com.
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